230404_23-012_LWC_LiveStream_MugClub.mp3 Steven: [00:00:00] Hey, glad to have you with us. No, don't come in now. I hear them yelling. Do we go in? Now there's an on air sign. Jeez, this is a great start. Sorry we missed the show here this morning. We were preparing for this today because I think all of us know that this is one of those moments where it's a it's an I remember when you remember where you were. Do you remember what you were doing? Because this is unprecedented and and it's important and it's deliberately designed to intimidate you and to change the next election. You know, what you're watching right now? Right now, you're watching election meddling. So use the hashtag Crowder live stream We'll have Nick Rokita from Rokita Law on today Of course it's still a month of free mug club Lutterworth credit.com slash mug club. We're not on YouTube. Share it if you can. We'll be doing a live fact checking, watching CNN for this entire, well, hour or two hours, depending on what transpires. We're we're doing this without a net. And it's one of those days that we'll all remember. Hopefully, this show is, you know, a good one, but your guess is as good as mine. Here's a flashback. [00:01:01] I think you've got a confession. Your. Yes. Get your attention. Don't call me down. For more. I am the best. The best. The best. The best. The best of you. Rates. It's real. The markets heal. You trust you must. Now it's time for a confession, my friend. It's. Are you ready to lose again? Oops. You can try to resist. My germs are short of light wicks. My friends. The best. The best. I matched it. You? All right. Well. Steven: [00:04:38] Yeah. No, Nick DiPaolo was just asking me. I'm 35, but I'm 65 at heart. I'm sitting here with Nick DiPaolo. I'm the grumpy one. Yeah, because this was. That has never happened to my life. This was printed for your eyes. It's like there's three lines on my little outline here. So if I'll be, I'll be jumping around. But glad to be with you. Hey, look, hashtag is the Crowder live stream, because it's really hard to spell arraignment. We'll be watching CNN. Bring it up there in the lower corner. Tool Man. Tim, nothing up our sleeves. We'll be fact checking this today. And there's not that much to fact check right now, but there's a lot that maybe people don't know. Let me ask you this. What do you know about brags? What do you know about the charges right now? What do you know about the Stormy Daniels case? What do you know about the Soros funding? What do you know about the precedent that's being set? What do you know about Hillary Clinton, Geithner, Swalwell We'll go through all it's not it's not. What about ism? It's people breaking laws in this country that have direct ramifications on national security, consequence free. And instead we trump something up. Forgive the pun. I don't want to start off that way. It's difficult. Some trumped up charges for a political witch hunt. So we'll be getting into that and more. We'll be taking your questions. We have a drinking game before we bring them in live. Drinking game because it's a good day for day drinking. You will hear this ding. And if you see any of these pop up, it's way off. One of those drink when January 6th is mentioned, when a broadcaster mentions Trump's arrest celebrating it, I guess I should say, if anyone uses the phrase no one is above the law, hush money or felony. And then, of course, if there's any chastising of supporters of Trump or if the media promotes a blatant lie and have alcohol poisoning, you're going to be drunk. There's not enough booze on the planet. No, there's absolutely not. Yakuza is already. Speaker2: [00:06:15] Drunk, which is why he hit the buzzer. Steven: [00:06:16] Yeah, that has nothing to do with the game, though, so. Speaker2: [00:06:18] Yeah, he's. He's our resident Brodigan. Right. That has to. Steven: [00:06:20] Do with Ford letting him out early. That's true. Speaker3: [00:06:22] Well, you know, they have a sandwich named after me. So do they. Steven: [00:06:24] Really? That's a lie. Gerald. Hey, how are you, sir? Speaker2: [00:06:28] I'm well, sir. How are you? Steven: [00:06:29] I'm doing all right. I'm just, you know, I'm not thrilled about this, obviously, but this is cathartic for people watching. And by the way, I should tell you guys, please. Yeah, do consider sharing it. Fremont of Mug Club, because we're not on YouTube, just like the last election. It's always happenstance how that works. Yeah, you're. Speaker2: [00:06:42] Good. I am good. I'm Look, I'm looking forward to actually finding out what the trumped up charges are. If you're going to do it, I'm going to do it. Yeah. So I think we'll get into predictions here in a minute, but I think this will be very interesting. This will be a historic day. Yes, I know. There's not we're not we don't have Donald Trump making comments on this. We don't have the DA coming out. Actually, the DA is going to make statements after this is all released to kind of clarify, maybe give some context. Maybe we'll be able to cover that if he does it quickly after we hear what the actual charges are. But you will find out that this. Steven: [00:07:09] Even on the lower corner there, man, the CNN thing. So that way people know that we're not this isn't pre-taped. No, no. This is like those other podcasting folks. Speaker2: [00:07:17] We just want to show you the Trump supporters standing. Oh, I'm sorry. Those are police officers and Trump supporters. Oh, I thought. Steven: [00:07:22] I thought that was a Wayne County voting precinct. I was confused. The poll. Speaker2: [00:07:25] Watchers, you have to look through the windows with. Steven: [00:07:28] The darkened windows. All right. I have to introduce our man here in third chair, by the way. You can go and see him. I have to go nine pages in April 21st in Saint Louis at the Funny Bone, and then you're April 22nd in Saint Charles, Missouri. Nick Mipcom one of the funniest. Well, he is, in my opinion, the funniest stand up comedian working alive. And his show starts April 10th on Mug Club. Nick DePaula, how are you, sir? Speaker4: [00:07:49] Tremendous. Stephen Can't wait to. It's kind of creepy, this happening to a great American president. And I'm in Dallas. I'll remember I. Steven: [00:07:54] Was. Yes, exactly. Speaker4: [00:07:55] Well, I was at the grassy knoll last night. We went to Stars Game. Did you actually. Yeah. Steven: [00:07:59] Yeah. Well, people don't know that we're in Dallas, but thanks. We kind of threw them off the side of Austin. Speaker4: [00:08:04] I didn't know that. You think somebody would made that clear to me the minute I got. Steven: [00:08:07] You know, It's okay. You know what's. What's a nice. Speaker4: [00:08:10] A boiler room operation. Yes. Steven: [00:08:13] All right. So, look, I do want to set this up for you before we get into anything else, we'll get into brags. I think this clip is very relevant. Here's former Vice President Joe Biden making it very clear when people say, is this a political witch hunt? If I'm a lawyer, if I'm a judge, this quote is a signal of intent that Joe Biden said that Donald Trump, President Donald Trump can never assume power again. Notice, he doesn't talk about a democratic process. Speaker5: [00:08:37] The entire genesis of that G7 conversation was tied to your predecessor, who is about to launch another campaign. So how do you reassure them if that is the reason for their questioning, that the former president will not return or that his political movement, which is still very strong, will not again take power in the United States? Well. Speaker6: [00:09:02] We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by if we if he does run, making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next president again. Speaker2: [00:09:17] Wow. That's that's pretty interesting. Joe Biden right there didn't say we'll make sure that we run an effective campaign to make sure that this person is never elected again. They'd be like, we use every power that we have in the federal government. We'll find a place in the Constitution. And if we don't find a place, we'll write it into the margins, because they do that with my Bible. And apparently that's okay. I can just add to God's word. We're just going to find a way. Oh, you're saying you. Steven: [00:09:37] I thought you were still doing it from Biden's point of Biden's perspective. He opens a Bible spontaneously combust. Well, you. Speaker2: [00:09:42] Can't write on laminated page, so Trump would never do. Steven: [00:09:44] So, Nick, if he goes into confession, Booth is. Speaker4: [00:09:46] Yes. Yeah. It's his last name. Biden or Stalin. Oh, I see. Come on. You see what I did? I see. Well, I was trying to get out. I told them where you guys do the show, and I figure if I throw a bad one in there. Look, I figured. Steven: [00:09:58] Yeah, you'd be like. I would go to you. Speaker4: [00:10:01] Yes, exactly. Steven: [00:10:03] I don't like Stalin. Joke that joke. I think that's funny. Speaker7: [00:10:05] You said he's punishing himself. Steven: [00:10:09] It's like The Da Vinci Code. He has the spiked garter belt. Bad jokes? No, it doesn't matter. Speaker4: [00:10:16] I forgot it. Steven: [00:10:17] We're here for. We're here for. You know, it's a good time. Not a long time. Speaker4: [00:10:21] Yeah, it's a long time. A couple hours. Speaker2: [00:10:23] And by the way, look, we could have spent all day talking. Steven: [00:10:25] About my lifespan. Speaker2: [00:10:27] We could have gone through clips for days from AOC and from, you know, Pelosi and everybody else saying they won't let Trump come back into power. Just beat him at the ballot box. You guys are trying to kneecap him politically through the judicial system right now. Steven: [00:10:40] Yeah, no, I think that's absolutely true. We have a lot to get to. Should we get right into or should we go on to brags first? Yeah, sure. Okay. All right. Well, actually, you know what? No, this is polling. Let's do the polling because this is important and this is kind of the theme. And Nick, and for people who don't know, we're actually putting together a compilation from Nick. If you guys can help us find clips from like tough crowd, old Comedy Central roasts. Yeah, he's. Speaker4: [00:10:59] Most of them are in black and white. Steven: [00:11:00] Yes, I know. That's like Chaplin's in there Is the moon with a rocket. I'm like, What's Nick doing on the moon with a rocket? Speaker4: [00:11:06] I hit Lucille Ball with a nice straight right hand. One of these. Speaker2: [00:11:10] You and Desi both. Oh. Steven: [00:11:12] It was a more innocent time. It was a good could beat the crap out of his wife. Speaker4: [00:11:16] Right. In a separate bed. Yes, exactly. Steven: [00:11:18] It must have had incredible reach when you think about it. Speaker4: [00:11:21] Like Larry Holmes. Steven: [00:11:22] Yeah, exactly. Speaker4: [00:11:23] Larry Holmes. Absolutely. Steven: [00:11:24] Oh, Klitschko. Speaker4: [00:11:29] You can do her, too. Steven: [00:11:30] I don't know. I don't want The last thing I want to do is Lucille Ball. But there are a lot of good work for Cubans, though. Desi Arnaz, This is one of those things. Nick DiPaolo, that a good thing? We do. We do this mug club, right? We're bringing people in who I think you guys need to know about. He is always hated liberals. You can go back to Comedy Central back in 2001. You can I'm sure they can find standup from the 90s. But I mean, as far as televised, you think that you think that ever, you know, maybe harmed some opportunities for you career wise? Speaker4: [00:11:55] Well, you know, it's tough to tell because they're so sneaky about it. Like my name could have come up for a pilot and one guy could go, no, Right. Yeah. This guy is you know, he's too much or whatever, right. It it cost me an Applebee's commercial. I know that. Did it cost. I'm not kidding you. Speaker2: [00:12:09] They dodged a bullet there. Yeah. Speaker4: [00:12:12] No, exactly. They called me and they wanted me to fly down to Atlanta and Chip Carrey and another famous. They were going to somehow I was going to be in an Applebee's commercial. And at about the 11th hour, they went on on my social media and found me like, roasted, you know, Artie Lange. Steven: [00:12:29] I thought you were going to say they went more ethnic. Yeah. Speaker4: [00:12:32] That happened with me one time. I was. No, I'm perfect. You know what I am? I can be Puerto Rican. I could be Hawaiian. Steven: [00:12:37] Generically ethnic. Speaker4: [00:12:38] I could be a lesbian from Italy. Look at me. Steven: [00:12:41] You're Abercrombie Brown, where it's like you're not white, but you don't intimidate white people. Speaker4: [00:12:44] That's true. Sure. So I got yanked. They yanked it. Steven: [00:12:47] But this is the thing they try. And you've been seeing this for a long time and you've been calling it out for years. They're trying to guess like it's why they remove the comments and sorry, the dislikes on YouTube. It's why they try. It's why they remove half of our shows from the very first week that we started broadcasting. Right. They don't want you to see that there are more of you than them. And Donald Trump here is a proxy. This is going to be opening a box and the left doesn't care. By the way. That's why I say when people say, hey, we should sort of try and simmer down a little bit. No, no, look at what the left are they saying, hey, no, we know that this is one of those issues that maybe we shouldn't set this bad precedent. They're going full bore. They're going full steam ahead. And this is something that we're trying to do, too. They're trying to hide behind the guise of legitimacy. And they usually when they don't have an argument, they go to polls. So we actually we have a clip right now. Cnn ran a poll or they did a story on a poll that was run by CNN. And they want you to think that the vast majority of Americans approve of the indictment and arraignment, but then their own poll conflicts with what they tell you. And then we have polls from other legitimate sources. Speaker8: [00:13:40] Yeah. As New York prepares for tomorrow's historic arraignment of Donald Trump, we're getting new CNN polling revealing how the American public is reacting. David, it looks like the majority of Americans, based on this poll, actually support the move. That's right. Well, if we went into the field and did this new exclusive CNN poll conducted by SSRS just after the indictment, and look at the results here, 60% of Americans approve of the indictment of Donald Trump. Steven: [00:14:10] That guy has fat guy voice. Speaker4: [00:14:12] Yes, he does. He's a fat guy. Type two. Yes, Yes. Two voices. Two weeks off the list, by the way. Speaker2: [00:14:19] That's that's not really how our judicial system should work. Steven: [00:14:21] It's not our it to death. Speaker2: [00:14:22] 60% of people approve. I guess that's fine. We should carry on, right? Steven: [00:14:25] That would be mob rule. Yeah. And here's the thing. They say 60% approve and 40% disapprove. Okay, here's the thing. If you notice the poll, let's bring this up. This is overlay 86. There's no option of not sure, which is pretty typical with a poll. Right. So that. Makes it an outlier. And then there's something else that I think is very telling. In that exact same poll. It's 76% of the people CNN polled said this is political, This indictment is political. This arraignment is political. So it means they know that it's political, but they approve of it anyway. That's CNN. That's the. Speaker4: [00:14:53] Point. Steven: [00:14:54] They don't mind. Speaker4: [00:14:55] Right. I'm watching so-called right wing media like Fox, and they're going, this is the line I've been hearing for the last two weeks. Well, even if you didn't vote for him, it didn't like him. This should really bother you as an American. That's not how the left thinks. Or people who vote Democrat. It's the ends. Justify the means. Well, plus, you're not American, huh? Steven: [00:15:12] Plus, they're not American. Speaker4: [00:15:13] They're not. We got to stop calling them. Remember that? Yeah, exactly. No lying in bed. Steven: [00:15:16] They're watching and they're going. Okay. Yeah, that's a good portion of day. Here's something else, too, that's pretty interesting. Now we have a YouGov poll, right? So the rule of contrast is important. Speaker2: [00:15:26] Give me one second. 92%. 93% of Republicans thought it was political. That's understandable. Right? But this is the thing where Donald Trump wins 52% of independents, more independents than not, felt like it was a political move. Yes, you want to push independents where some. Steven: [00:15:40] According to CNN polls, exactly where they didn't even have the option of. I don't know yet which would actually be appropriate for this, considering we don't even have the charges for 100%. Speaker2: [00:15:50] Of the people to vote. I don't know. It's perfect. Speaker4: [00:15:53] That's right. No one would have said. Steven: [00:15:55] It's funny how they hate binary when it deals with gender, but when it's polling, you got an A or B, it's rigid thinking it's gender. I don't know. Let's go with 54,000. Who gets it? So YouGov had a poll, by the way. Right? It was. This is interesting, too, as far as the national election today, this goes to the fact that people say Democrats want Donald Trump to be the candidate. It's this whole kind of, well, it's 45, 43 Biden, Trump right now, if the election were held right now, that's pretty damn close, within the margin of error. And then if you look at the actual response to the poll, do we have guys do we have the response to the poll on YouGov? I think you might be able to bring it up. We had a response to the poll as far as who approved, who disapproved. It was still a majority approved. I think it might have been more because there was a not sure option. I think it was 40 something percent approved, but a huge portion of them said that they weren't sure. So if you contrast it with YouGov, if you contrast CNN's poll with any legitimate pollster and by the way, it tracks with real clear politics as far as the national election, it's within striking distance. And most Americans, not the CNN people who are polled, understand that this is political. So it comes down to if you understand that it's political, do you want to live in a country where you can be indicted and you can be arraigned because it's applied selectively? Right. That's what's scary about this. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:17:02] And so you have to understand that even with polling like that, where it shows that it's basically within the error margin, right? You've had nothing but year and a half, two years of Donald Trump is the devil, Right? Right. And January 6th and he's got classified documents and he's leading an insurrection and he's doing all of this. And even with all of that and no real opposition from Trump, because, remember, Trump is not on any social media other than one right now, other than truth, social right, other than truth. And he's basically been able to kind of stay in the race. Steven: [00:17:29] Which I have bookmarked just for comedic purposes. Speaker2: [00:17:31] That's true. Steven: [00:17:31] Yes. His truth social post today brags needs to indict himself. Speaker2: [00:17:36] Saw that that was hilarious. Steven: [00:17:38] I'm going to indict Trump you first brags if that is your real name. Speaker2: [00:17:43] I think we have a quote later. Steven: [00:17:46] See right. Exactly how his. Speaker2: [00:17:47] Wife will. Steven: [00:17:48] Love it. Yes, that's right. He said it. His wife will love it. Folks won't have to deal with brags shreyash anymore. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:17:56] So I think we have the the poll that you were referencing real quick if we get your. Speaker4: [00:18:00] Wife in my bed brags that's not the. Speaker2: [00:18:01] Poll. Speaker4: [00:18:04] That's a mushroom that's a different. Steven: [00:18:06] You could put a glass of wine on it while I pop your wife it won't move a set. Speaker3: [00:18:10] Yeah, we got the poll. Do you approve or disapprove of Donald Trump being indicted falsely? Business records conceal his hush money payments to a porn star approved. 42% disapprove. 3919. Steven: [00:18:21] So that's also within the margin of error, by the way. And that's not a conservative pollster. Right, when you look at it. So CNN wants to do this so they can gaslight. Oh, let's go to CNN right now. Some people are walking in. That guy looks like that's the new. Speaker4: [00:18:31] Lawyer, isn't it? That look like. Speaker2: [00:18:33] Blanch one of the Cuomo's. Jeez. Speaker4: [00:18:35] Yeah, that's the missing. Cuomo Yeah. Steven: [00:18:36] I got stung by Phil Cuomo. Speaker4: [00:18:38] Bill Cuomo probably back. Steven: [00:18:40] There talking to him. Either way, someone's I don't know why that's funny. But that name Phil Cuomo, Phil Cuomo on the. Speaker9: [00:18:46] Topic of Alvin Bragg. Again, I was colleagues with him for a long time, also important in his history. And we're looking out for the president here. I'll be quiet, actually. Speaker8: [00:18:54] Let's just focus on what's. Speaker10: [00:18:56] About to occur, Alissa. It's very possible. It's like they're at a. Speaker4: [00:18:59] Mall guarding the yarn bombs. Steven: [00:19:01] All right. There you go. There's President Trump. Speaker4: [00:19:05] He's skinny right now. I'll tell you that much. Steven: [00:19:08] He came out of office looking younger than he went in. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:19:10] President Trump came out looking angry. Speaker4: [00:19:13] Yes. Okay. Speaker11: [00:19:17] That's all we seen of him. Yeah. Speaker12: [00:19:19] Former President Trump entering the court. Please tell me. Steven: [00:19:23] That's all we see. Indictments. Speaker12: [00:19:24] It's like a monster movie. Steven: [00:19:26] Where it's just a peak and then everyone just is wondering what's going on in the courtroom. Oh, there was. Speaker4: [00:19:32] That. Look, look, They're replaying it, replaying over and over. No, literally seconds ago. Oh, my God. That's how they super slow motion. Yeah. Let's take another to. Steven: [00:19:41] Bring up that alien bit from signs where he just walks across the screen. That's what just happened. Let's hear what they're saying on CNN. Because they can't have they can't fill this with all the bullcrap they're trying to sell. Let's hear what they're saying. Speaker8: [00:19:51] He's got to follow instructions. But the question is now, after he is released, which is anticipated from custody at the end of this hearing, will he come to these cameras and make a statement then? Speaker10: [00:20:02] Caitlin Collins, who's you're in the hall? I believe that was you yelling out a question. What did you see? Fire her. Yeah. Steven: [00:20:10] She thought he was going to answer her like he's walking through. No, wait. Caitlin Collins. I'll take one from you. Speaker13: [00:20:17] From that door where former President Trump just entered. He took a left. He went into the same courtroom where you saw his attorneys go in, also his aides, Jason Miller. All right. Steven: [00:20:26] Okay. We'll go back to this. Just shows you how useless CNN is. Caitlin, what did you see? Well, we just saw him walk in and he seemed to walk to the left. And he's in the courtroom now where other members of the court reside. There's a judge in there. We believe there are likely some people who practice law. Anderson Yeah. Anderson How is your butt, baby? Anderson Sorry, Nick, I think I cut you off. Speaker2: [00:20:49] No, you did. Did you hear Anderson's voice? It was like the moon landing. Like he was like. And there's Donald Trump. Steven: [00:20:55] Well, I hope that Anderson Cooper self-destructs like the challenger. Oh, geez. All right. Serious tone. Speaker4: [00:21:01] One step for Marxist. Yes. Steven: [00:21:03] Yes. That's one small step for homosexual news hosts. Yeah, One giant boner for Don Lemon. Okay. So here's something else that people you may not know about. Let's try and actually add some value. Unlike CNN, you can use that. They've shown it against him. Speaker4: [00:21:17] They're shocked. Oh, my God. Oh, you think they need the ratings? Steven: [00:21:22] No, you can't see me here. Kenny. I was going to say, can we do a play by play? Yeah. As you can see here, I don't know. We have a giant. We have a ginger giant here who is soulless monster. But Donald Trump was was walking. I don't know if you saw this unaided. Yeah. There you go. He was he walked in and he made a move to the left. My left, your right here. And we saw him for about 14 seconds. That'd be generous. And we're going to talk about this for the next hour because we have no substance to provide. Back to you. Gorgeous. Speaker2: [00:21:52] Stephen, can you do me a favor? Can you tell me what you could read by his body language? Yeah, well, I. Steven: [00:21:57] Could read by his body language that. Well, here we go again. Right there. You see right here, he's thinking is, Oh, my God. And, well, certainly what everyone else is thinking as they're watching this. There goes the man who won that election. Speaker4: [00:22:11] That's exactly right. Steven: [00:22:13] I believe he could be singing Jimmy Crack Corn. Speaker5: [00:22:15] Or other. Steven: [00:22:16] Limericks. Speaker4: [00:22:17] I can read his face. He hasn't taken a good dump in two weeks. Yeah, that's what I'm getting from that. But he shouldn't. He should. I was wondering how he was going to treat this. Come in with kind of a little bit of a smile, weren't you? Yeah. Well, come in. Letting you know he was pissed. Yeah. I don't know. Steven: [00:22:30] He came in looking like a meme of himself when he's angry, where he's like, you dirty commie. Speaker4: [00:22:34] No. Yeah, that's exactly right. Speaker2: [00:22:36] He's playing his own entrance music in his head. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Steven: [00:22:42] No, instead he's going kick, kick, kick. Get down with the sickness. I should get him to sing for me. My, my, my. Speaker4: [00:22:52] Rally. That is a giant ginger. Yeah, a. Steven: [00:22:54] Giant ginger, for crying out loud. I can't. I mean. Oh, he's getting all the camera time. Speaker4: [00:22:59] This guy's going to get a series on NBC. Steven: [00:23:01] Yes, exactly. Speaker2: [00:23:02] More time than Trump. Speaker4: [00:23:03] Did marrying the fat cop or whatever. They fuck. They do, you know. Steven: [00:23:10] Yeah, well, it's a Melissa McCarthy vehicle. Speaker4: [00:23:12] Yeah, exactly. That's what I was thinking. It's Bob Kelly, the comedian. Yes, exactly. What's it chemo night. Yeah, he. Steven: [00:23:18] Got well, he got an at least he was in the Applebee's commercial. Speaker4: [00:23:20] Look at him. I think he's a Trump fan, That guy right there. Steven: [00:23:23] Oh, I guarantee you that a lot of these guys are here. So here's another thing people are asking, like what felonies are happening right now? We'll get right along here and we'll talk about brags a little bit more. Here's something that you need to understand. There is an incentive to mark these as felonies. Why? And keep in mind that brags was a guy who said, and there's a deepfake going around that he said he. Speaker2: [00:23:40] Bragged not plural and it's the Canadian. Steven: [00:23:42] You coming out I'm thinking of rigs Well yeah you know he's getting too old for this. But brag brag. He said there wasn't any there there there was a big deepfake. Just so you know, he never said that he wasn't going to charge Trump. He was going to drop the charges. That's something going around. That's not true. It's been parodied everywhere, even on Fox News. Yeah, but he did say that they seemed paper thin. He did say that there likely wasn't anything there back in the day and he got caught. A lot of flack for it. Just to be clear, some people actually resigned. Some of the prosecution resigned. So now they've trumped up felonies. So this was always these were always thought to be misdemeanors. Right. Because you're talking about a case that maybe might have involved not being clear on your taxes, but. The statute of misdemeanors. The statute of limitations is two years. Two years in New York. Right. So the difference is, if it's a felony, I believe that it's five years. It is right in New York. So, okay, we can extend that if we claim it's a felony. This is why you see plea bargains. People plead down. We're like, did you kill the guy? Well, I did, but they just told me to plea to, like, hitting him like a hit and run so I could get out, which to me seems kind of silly. Like, did you kill him or not? Speaker4: [00:24:40] Well, I hit him with a hammer in his boxer shorts. Well, that's the whole thing. Steven: [00:24:42] I think it's hard to argue vehicular manslaughter at that point. Right. You don't even have a license. Well, I do. For this hammer Paul Pelosi, the the jail time that he could be looking at is up to four years. So the most likely charge, by the way, this is overlay E one is falsifying business records in the first degree. So these usually are misdemeanors. But in Trump's case, they have to escalate, escalate, escalate so they can give him a four year prison sentence. Right. They're talking about it. Speaker2: [00:25:09] Extends the the statute of limitations to five years. But even then, they have a problem. Steven: [00:25:14] And it's and no one gets jailed for that. By the way, as a first time offender, that does not happen. Speaker4: [00:25:19] And it's just so ironic that he's you know, first thing he did in Office Brag was to reduce 52% of felonies to misdemeanors. Right now he's going the other way with it. Steven: [00:25:29] Yeah, he was saying that people shouldn't be including assaults, by the way, including violent crimes. Of course, it's always under the guise of no one should be arrested for an ounce of weed. Well, people aren't being arrested for an ounce of weed. You're letting people out for violent assaults, but someone who they want to say misrepresented his business? Well, in this case, they might throw the book at him for something completely unprecedented. By the way, we're in two completely uncharted territories, a former president sitting president, depending on how you want to look at it. I look at it as sitting president. Okay. Being indicted. Okay. Well, actually, three being indicted, being arraigned while he is actually running for president. And if he gets any kind of jail time out of this, that would also be something that is relatively unprecedented. I'm sure you can find some exceptions to the rules. This is to make an example of him, to make you feel bad. Notice that Biden even slipped up the other day and mentioned I think they asked him about DeSantis. Maybe it was Kamala Harris and he said the MAGA, right? Just no MAGA was not to apply to Donald Trump voters. It's going to apply to any Republican. It's going to apply to any conservative. Speaker4: [00:26:21] You mean after this? Or do you say. Steven: [00:26:24] Yeah, before this? They say, Oh, the MAGA fringe, right? You mean half the country who voted for him? I mean, I know it's not the same amount who voted for the most popular president in history. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:26:33] Joe Biden. There was 127% participation in. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So we can say that. Steven: [00:26:38] Yeah, you can say it on Rumble most fell. Yeah. They have a five year statute of limitations. Here's the thing brag may actually attempt to bring this up to a class D felony. Just so you know that's what people are talking about here. And that would that would require proving that Donald Trump intended to cover up a crime. Right. So there are a lot of presumptions here. Speaker2: [00:26:55] Just so everybody understands that this the alleged crime happened in, I believe, 2016. Right. So they paid hush money, I think 10 or 12, maybe 15 days prior to the election in November of 2016. And that's when the crime was said to have occurred. Right. That's what Michael Cohen was asked about, though. We'll get to Michael Cohen. He's a he's a large turd for a lot of other reasons. Speaker4: [00:27:15] Yes. That's good. Speaker2: [00:27:15] Character witness. Yes. What they're saying is. Steven: [00:27:17] So when Avenatti is not. Speaker2: [00:27:18] Available, I know none of us are math Asians in here necessarily, but five plus 16 is not 23. Steven: [00:27:23] Why do you say that? None of us are Asians in here. Well, that's true. Speaker2: [00:27:26] But certainly not math Asians. Well, it goes. Steven: [00:27:28] Without saying that it's racist. Speak for. Speaker4: [00:27:30] Yourself. I'm very good. Speaker2: [00:27:31] But basically what Brag is going to have to say is, yes, I know it's been almost seven years or six and a half years since this crime occurred and the statute of limitations is five years. But since he left the state, then it tolled, right? So the clock basically stops on the statute of limitations. And so that's a pretty thin argument in and of itself. So there's not only are the crimes themselves very hard to prove, you have to prove that Donald Trump himself directed or did this right. And De La can kind of clarify that a little bit. Nick, if I'm wrong, he will bring him on here in a minute. But if I'm wrong, he can correct me. Steven: [00:28:00] Let's call him Ricardo, because to Nick's is going to be confused. Yeah, you. Speaker4: [00:28:02] Scare me every time you bring up legal shit. Yeah. Steven: [00:28:05] Going to ask Nick about the statute of limitations? Call him the law. Speaker4: [00:28:08] Yeah, that's absolutely right. Speaker2: [00:28:10] So they're going to have to prove that. But they're also going to have to make the argument that the statute of limitations should have paused when he left the state. Well, here's what he was back. And here's what's also interesting. Steven: [00:28:18] And you can't prove this and I can't prove I mean, no one on the left and people in positions of power want to prove it. But Donald Trump's one of his attorneys, by the way. And it's always funny that his attorneys are clearly women he would like to sleep with. Speaker4: [00:28:29] I picked up. Steven: [00:28:30] On very often he's like, okay, here we have Harvard Law. Here we have this man from Princeton. Take her. Speaker4: [00:28:37] I don't see any admiral. Admiral Levine's in there. Steven: [00:28:40] But I don't care how brilliant. But, Mr. President, she went to Schenectady Community College. Whose president here? You can win her the double D's not guilty, they'll say. All right, So here she is actually mentioning this. And again, it's really hard to imagine how this would have leaked any other way. It's Alina Haba. Haba. Speaker4: [00:28:58] Haba haba. Yeah, it is. It's just perfect. There's Don looking at her accusing. Steven: [00:29:03] Oh, that's a still a still. Speaker2: [00:29:04] Picture from inside the. Steven: [00:29:05] That's a still picture with it Looks like he's sitting next to Dee Snider. Yeah. Speaker4: [00:29:09] Marcia Clark. Yeah. Marcia Clark. Nice hairdo. Whoops. Well, they treat him like O.J., so it's kind of a Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't. Steven: [00:29:16] A Ford Bronco, a Snapchat filter on his car. When I was going. Speaker4: [00:29:20] Down, they were showing that CNN was showing him in the car on the highway, which is no accident. It's to subconsciously associate you with. Yeah, of course. In their eyes, he's a murderer. Yeah, They also. Steven: [00:29:30] Sped it up. Speaker4: [00:29:31] Right. Steven: [00:29:32] So here she is saying that the leak, by the way, which if it did come from brag, would, in fact, be a felony. Don't expect any charges. Speaker8: [00:29:40] Former President. And do you. Steven: [00:29:41] Do the legal. Speaker14: [00:29:42] Team, do they the unsealing of the document, do you support that? Does he support that? Speaker15: [00:29:48] Yes. I mean, I think it will happen no matter what. I would like to see what the basis is for this. Let's remember that the real crime here that we have is that DA brag did leak, that there were 30 to 34 counts. We already know that that in itself is a felony. You are not to let that go. So at this point, I mean, and I like everybody, we don't know if the same, no matter DJ. Speaker14: [00:30:09] We don't know if the DA leaked that information. That is speculation. Well, we. Speaker15: [00:30:14] Don't have that information. So. Well, it's not speculation. We don't have the information. Steven: [00:30:19] She passed my bar with flying colors. Speaker4: [00:30:24] She's a good. Steven: [00:30:24] Looking lady, is what we're getting. Speaker4: [00:30:25] What we're driving. Yeah, I could tell the way Dom is drooling. Yes. Steven: [00:30:29] Well, that's because there was an intern off camera waving a rattle, by the way. Speaker2: [00:30:32] Look. Look at his response to that. We don't know. We don't know. I love her response. She's like, well, two people had the information. I'm sorry. One person had the information. There are two parties to this. Yes. We don't have it. Steven: [00:30:43] I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you dumb bitch. I have to cut to, I believe, Donald Trump walking for eight seconds. I'm going to spend the next two hours on that. Yes, indeed. We don't want to give any time to his representation. This is something else. Some people have gotten it wrong, unfortunately, on the right where they exaggerate or they talk about the funding from Soros. But the fact is, when you're talking about DA Brag is funded by Soros, now it goes through a pack, of course, but the timeline there really matters. And this is the thing, right? You can audit anybody. You can indict anybody. You don't live in a free country because you have laws. It's only a free country. If the laws are applied equally. So when you understand those in charge of applying the law who don't even apply it consistently, that's a really scary thought. And that's when you cease to be a constitutional republic. Here we go. We have a clip right here regarding one of his backers in Soros. And I can tell you this, these Soros backed days, they are a menace to society. They are a menace to the rule of law. And I'm just proud to say that when we had one of those days in Tampa that said he wasn't going to enforce some of our duly elected, duly enacted laws in the state of Florida, we didn't let that stand. I removed him from his post and he is out. Speaker16: [00:32:01] How could you vote for him? He couldn't even pronounce elected, he said elected. Steven: [00:32:07] So Yahoo! This is the thing, right? You'll love this, Nick, is if you criticize or you point this out, the Soros funding, you're an anti-Semite. Here's a Yahoo headline. It's Trump. Desantis and other Republicans push anti-Semitic Soros Smear after Bragg Indictment. Here you have a 200 word essay from The New York Times calling Soros critics a conspiracy theorists. Right. So their claim and by the way, you probably have that hashtag there in a lower third, if we can. It's hashtag Crowder Election stream. You still have two weeks left to free of mug club. And that's all that keeps the lights on here right now. New York Times ran an essay. The right's fixation with Mr. Soros has waxed and waned for years, But the tumult surrounding Mr. Trump's indictment has given new life to a critics have long contended anti-Semitic bigotry, blah, blah, blah, blah. So here's the claim I guess we can use that. The claim is that they'll say Soros didn't fund brag. Okay, It's not true. Okay. So here's and this is according to The Washington Post. I have this here. It's he never made a contribution to brag. Well, that's technically true, though. New York State election records show Soros son and daughter in law each contributed a little more than $10,000. This is what they do, right? It's a sleight of hand. It's hey, look, their kids gave $10,000, by the way. I don't know what the law is, but I believe Dinesh D'Souza was arrested for giving less to his friend who lost a senatorial campaign. True. But here's the truth that you need to know. And if you understand how this works, of course, you'd think the left would care about this. And they always talk about Citizens United and Election, you know, campaign finance reform, not when it applies to them. Soros funded a PAC, right. That donated to Bragg. Now, the PAC is Color of Change $1 million. Okay. It's a racial justice PAC. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Here's the important part. I donated. Speaker4: [00:33:43] Like 5000. Did you really racial 5000 racial PAC? Steven: [00:33:46] Well, it doesn't apply to Sicilians. They don't consider you amongst them. Speaker4: [00:33:50] I'm not Sicilian. I'm Italian. Learn the difference between. Gee, I know I did. Speaker2: [00:33:54] Wow, somebody's touchy. What is the difference? Speaker4: [00:33:56] I don't know. All I know is my great great grandmother was raped by the moors on a hill in Calabria in 1287. 1480, I think. Really? Honestly. Oh, that's horrible. That's a Patrice O'Neal told me. But that's why you were. Steven: [00:34:09] Athletic, right? You let it. So. Speaker4: [00:34:11] Yes, I had the blazing speed for 640. Steven: [00:34:16] So $1 million to Color of Change, a racial justice PAC. Here's the interesting part. It came one day after Color of Change endorsed Barack. Really? One day they endorsed Brag. And then Soros is like, I got to give it a million. By the way, the Jews are in the attic. He said, he's just a it's a reflex. I was about. Speaker2: [00:34:32] To say, anybody can be, you know, accused of being anti-Semitic. It's him. Right. Steven: [00:34:36] Well, this is what Washington Post they try and say. So claiming Soros funded brag is completely false or simply false. But many rely on the more ambiguous phrase of backed. This is technically correct by several degrees of separation by $1 million to a PAC the day after. Well, it gets worse. Speaker2: [00:34:53] That PAC actually decided to donate. They pledged $1 million to Bragg's campaign. It's interesting that the numbers are the same. Steven: [00:35:00] So he gave a million, right. So I want to make sure he gave a million. Right. One day after they endorsed Bragg and then they gave any random million dollars could have come in from anywhere, any million directly to Bragg. Yes. Well, good enough for me. Speaker4: [00:35:13] There's no case. Speaker2: [00:35:14] I really don't think so. Steven: [00:35:15] Yeah. No, it's Washington Post says it's anti-Semitic. Speaker4: [00:35:18] Yeah, And they also defend Ilhan Omar. Yes, exactly. Round the clock. Steven: [00:35:22] The only congresswoman with a ticking pantsuit. Speaker4: [00:35:24] That's right. Speaker2: [00:35:25] You never know what you're going to need it. Steven: [00:35:26] Do we want to get into the judge here? Let's see what they're saying on CNN. Look, they're going with stills right now. They have nothing to go on and they're just waiting to have a victory dance. Let's hear what they have to say, because we have a drinking game. Speaker17: [00:35:35] Conviction, sweeping conviction against the Trump Organization where Allen Weisselberg pled guilty and testified on behalf of guilt by association, the district attorney against the Trump Org. He did not testify or give up any information about Donald Trump. But Susan Necklace was was one of the lead attorneys in that case. It was before this judge, by the way, Juan Mershon, same judge. Steven: [00:35:57] Is this a podcast? Is it radio with a still this is some of the most trusted name in news. I mean, bringing a James Earl Jones Stinger, something. Speaker4: [00:36:04] We should be all around a radio. Yes, exactly. Like listening to, you know, lean in Yankees. Steven: [00:36:10] Yeah. Listen to Jimmy Braddock win for the people against Max Baer. No, I hope that he. Speaker4: [00:36:15] Doesn't lose this time. Listen, a Lou Gehrig speech. Speaker17: [00:36:18] In a civil court in the E! Jean Carroll. Today. Today. Speaker4: [00:36:21] Today. Today. Today. I was arraigned on rain to rain during April 25th and next day. Speaker14: [00:36:26] And next to him, of course, Boris Epstein. Steven: [00:36:28] Who was that would be great if there would be some kind of Lou Gehrig's. But Donald Trump gave that speech today. Today, today, today. I begged bang, bang. Speaker16: [00:36:34] Bragg's wife, wife, wife, wife standing behind. Steven: [00:36:38] Do we want to bring on Rashida, do you think? Let's bring on Rashida to give us some legal expertise. And he is the law. And by the. The way again it is hashtag Crowder Livestream will be fact checking this and there are two more free weeks of mug club were suspended, as you well know, and it's what keeps the lights on. If you want us to do this, send in what you want us to fact check as well. Right now, there's nothing on CNN. They're not giving us anything to fact check. So nothing may be out there. They know if something's happening on another network. My guess is they're all just running that footage from signs. Speaker7: [00:37:04] And another. Still another still. Look at. Speaker2: [00:37:05] That. Still. That's a good one of him. Yes. Angry still. Steven: [00:37:10] He knows. The problem is he knows he's looking at the camera like he wanted that still, which, you know, it does make me question his judgment a little bit, like he chose that. I would love to see someone find his high school yearbook picture, the one where he had bone spurs. All right, Rekiah, do you have a stinger for Rokita? Yeah, Let's bring in Rokita. All right. Other Nick Rokita. Look at the guns on Nick DiPaolo here. Look at this. No, I. Speaker4: [00:37:37] Was just looking at him thinking I look like a fifth grade school teacher. Steven: [00:37:42] With the tricep when they're clacking. Speaker4: [00:37:44] The chalk. Yes. I used to have some cuts there. Good for you. No, no, Nick, I had lobster risotto at two in the morning. I might have something to do. That's true. Shrimp. Lobster. Was it good? Oh, my God. Yeah. I couldn't believe you can't. Steven: [00:37:57] It's the best place on earth is the middle of Texas for seafood. Speaker4: [00:38:00] No. Yeah. Speaker7: [00:38:02] What, do. Speaker2: [00:38:03] You have a lawyer on the line? Steven: [00:38:05] What is he? Go to Chicago and get thin crust? Speaker4: [00:38:07] Yeah, I go to Rome and look for Domino's. Yes, exactly. I want the hand-tossed. Yeah, exactly. Because he. Steven: [00:38:14] Does this. I can't find the hard rock here in Madrid. What's going on? All right, let's grab in. Ricotta expert, legal Resident Ricotta. Can you hear me, sir? Speaker18: [00:38:23] I can't hear him. He can't hear. Steven: [00:38:24] Me. I can't hear him. There he is. Oh, there he is. Can you hear me, sir? Speaker2: [00:38:28] We're getting the volume. Hold on. Steven: [00:38:29] We're getting the volume up. Speaker2: [00:38:30] We can see you, though. So do something. There you are. There you are, mate. Speaker4: [00:38:34] All right. Hey, how's it going? I've got a drinking problem, apparently. Steven: [00:38:36] Yeah. I was going to say, I don't know. It's a poster. They're not even real drinks. It's just a poster of what he yearns for. That's not good. Nick Rakita. How are you, sir? Speaker7: [00:38:44] Very good. How are you? Steven: [00:38:45] I cannot hear. I'm sorry, Mr. Rakita. I can't hear you. One second. My team here is scrambling a little bit. Go ahead. All right. One last time. Hi. Okay, perfect. I'm sorry. You probably had a great one liner and we stepped on you. Speaker4: [00:38:58] It was the volume button. Steven: [00:38:59] Mr. Rakita, should I call you Mr. Law? What do you prefer? Speaker7: [00:39:03] Oh, you can call me the law. The knows the law, Pope. Whatever you want, man. Steven: [00:39:08] Oh, no. We just made jokes about anti-Semitism. Nicky The. Speaker4: [00:39:10] Nose. Nicky. The nose. Steven: [00:39:13] Nicky. Nicky, the Soros. Let's. We can scrap that, right? It's live, but we can just cut it later. Yeah, we got. I got that. Speaker2: [00:39:19] In post, so there's. Steven: [00:39:20] No post. Let me ask you this, because a lot of people are wondering if this is political. And one of your videos, you said the average American commits like three felonies a day, right? Do I have that right? I have, yeah. Three felonies a day. The government can kind of just, you know, the old phrase, you can audit a ham sandwich. Speaker7: [00:39:32] Yeah, well, the idea is that the the legal system in America has become so bloated that basically anyone could be prosecuted at pretty much any time. And and that's a system of soft tyranny. Right? It's the idea that you can control the populace by making a system that they cannot avoid committing criminal acts through their normal daily lives. Right. Steven: [00:39:54] So we kind of know that, right? This is why I always overpay in taxes. And the IRS still owes me, like, I don't know, seven figures. They'll get right on that. They owe the business a bunch of money. I make that kind of cash. Well, you just overpay every quarter and they're like, you don't need to set aside 80%. I'm like, I don't know when Caesar is going to come for it. So I still fully expect them to audit at some point, even though they owe me money. But what does this mean for Americans at large, kind of this political theater? What kind of a precedent does it set? People say that, but how could this, you know, quantifiably affect Americans if they can do it to him? It seems like they can do it to anybody. What can be done to anybody? Speaker7: [00:40:27] Well, look, the first problem we have, Yes. Involves the every man, the every person. But the the other aspect of this, the real danger, in my opinion on the political side, is that if an average, regular American commits potentially three felonies a day without knowing, we can go ahead and assume that the average politician commits significantly more felonies with knowing. I think that's a and part of part of the sort of weird agreement that we have around politicians is at the highest levels. We really don't prosecute them that often because it starts to look political. It starts to look like this overt attack on your political opponents and that we kind of reserve for the Third World to leave them in abject turmoil. For all of history and all of the future, all cultures are equal. Right. The the West is largely eliminated. This this idea that you automatically go after your political opponents because it leads to cycles of violence eventually this is just kick the. Whoa, sorry. Can I swear on here? I swear. Steven: [00:41:28] Sorry. I mean, we have Nick DiPaolo here, so. Speaker4: [00:41:29] And you're Nicky the nose. You got to swear. Yeah. Speaker7: [00:41:32] Well, now, now it feels like I missed it, and I'll have to build back up to it. This likely just kicked the door open, and now we have the potential to go back and forth prosecuting our political opponents. And. And I think there's a real risk there that is extremely dangerous to this this thing that they've all fucking pretended to to want the whole time, which is the peaceful transition of power, which was obviously just a catchphrase to try and get people to stay home rather than voicing their First Amendment rights. Steven: [00:42:00] They always ask for civility when the other side is winning. To some degree, that's really what it means, right? Whereas the civility when George Bush was president, where was their civility when Donald Trump was president? Now that they have a guy in office, they owe on civility, civility. Let me ask you this. If if Bragg's office now, you have me paranoid because I'm saying Bragg's plural. I know it's Bragg, but Bragg Apostrophe S guys. Apostrophe S, he's an asshole. If they leave, if they leaked anyway, if they leaked the charges. While we're talking about this, the political football. Right. Would Trump have recourse? First off, is it a felony? And what would the recourse be if a DA leaked charges like that? Speaker7: [00:42:36] My understanding is that it would be a felony to leak a sealed document, to leak, you know, a sealed government record prior to the unsealing of it. Would Trump have recourse? Well, this gets into the fun question of how often prosecutors just fist the populace over and over in any sort of court action. And what they do is they'll break the rules. But the only person who can prosecute someone who breaks the rules in the government favor is typically the prosecutor, unless like a special prosecutor is appointed. Right. But when you have a political system of New York that is run entirely by the political opposition, we can expect basically no chance of that happening. Steven: [00:43:15] No, I think you're right. It's the American populace escaped. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:43:17] I just wanted to break in. Officially, he has pled not guilty. Oh, okay. Steven: [00:43:21] Hold on a second. Let's bring. Cnn. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:43:24] Did you think he was going to plead guilty? Yeah. Yeah. Are you surprised. Speaker4: [00:43:28] I did it? Hold on. Steven: [00:43:29] One second. Rickita. I just want to bring this. Speaker8: [00:43:30] The judge assigned to my witch hunt case, a case that's never been charged before. Capital letters hates me. Steven: [00:43:38] Oh, they're still. They're still reading the truth Social. So how does CNN not have this? Speaker2: [00:43:42] You know, I don't. Steven: [00:43:42] They're still focusing on his walk. Speaker2: [00:43:44] Cbs News head. I mean, look, it's no surprise, Nick, Right. Well, I'm sorry, Rickita That's all right. Because the other non-lawyer mister knows. Yes, Mister knows the law. It's no surprise that he pled not guilty. Right. I mean, everybody was expecting this. Speaker7: [00:43:56] Right. And it's very common for in any criminal prosecution, unless you're trying to get rid of it immediately, to just go ahead and plead not guilty. Even if you would plan to plead guilty later because you want the process to go ahead, you want to make sure that they've procedurally dealt with everything in the appropriate manner. Now, that being said, I think Trump's not guilty plea is extremely expected here because he has several defenses to the the assumed alleged crimes. We haven't seen the indictment yet. We only have kind of the best guess right at the moment. But those best guesses have several avenues for him to defend himself, even if what they say that happened is what happened. The idea that Trump is guilty of doing something under the statute is, you know, very much up in question. Steven: [00:44:40] I wish I had you the first time I had to go to court. The first time I went to court was because it was a speeding trap. And then what happened was they sent a ticket to I wasn't in my car. It was a friend's car. When I was visiting in Michigan, they sent they sent a ticket to an address that I had never been for a vehicle that wasn't mine. And so I just never received a notice. And they said, You're driving on a suspended license. And I said, Well, I don't remember getting this ticket, and you didn't even send me a notification. So anyways, it got completely thrown out because of how they handled it. But at that point, I went before the judge and of course, it's a lot of fun, right? When you go to court during the day, just a bunch of like purple suits. And then I go up to everyone's like, Not guilty, not guilty. And I'm listening. I'm going, Well, they clearly did it right. They showed them like on a camera. So I go up and I go, Your Honor, guilty. There they finally had it. Oh, there you go. I said, Your Honor, not guilty. But I would like to explain. And the judge said, Well, hold on a second. What are you saying? And I said, Well, I did do it, but let me explain context. She said, I'll write down not guilty. Speaker4: [00:45:35] What a country, what a country. Speaker16: [00:45:37] I was like. I mean, I did it. I got the speeding ticket. Steven: [00:45:39] She's like, I'll write down not guilty. So I didn't know, you know, I thought they went light. If you were transparent, it turns out that's not how it works. Speaker4: [00:45:46] A little different situation. Steven: [00:45:47] Yeah, a little bit different here. The stakes are a. Speaker16: [00:45:50] Little bit higher. All right. Steven: [00:45:51] Rashida, we'll probably check back in with you later. Is there anything else that you think people. Oh, yeah, go ahead, Gerald. Speaker2: [00:45:55] I wanted to say, Rashida, I know that the charges have been unsealed. I'm not sure if they've been relayed yet, but those should be forthcoming, so we might be able to go back to you pretty quickly once we know what the charges are so that we can discuss that. Expectations are that we know how this is going to go, but you never know. Da could be doing something kind of shady here because if it's just what we think, it's pretty thin. Steven: [00:46:14] Mission control. Let's see if you guys can get us those charges and then we'll have to provide some insight. Hey, Nick, thanks for being here, brother. We You're welcome. Speaker7: [00:46:22] Of course. It's my pleasure. Thank you. All right. Steven: [00:46:23] Thanks. Thanks, Costello. Speaker16: [00:46:30] I knew it was going to be a problem. Steven: [00:46:32] With two Knicks. Two Knicks, I think. By the way, you guys all have to drink because they said felony there on CNN last time we were there. Damn it. All right. Let's bring CNN back up. Speaker4: [00:46:41] I studied law, by the way. Steven: [00:46:43] Did you actually. Speaker3: [00:46:44] Yes. Speaker19: [00:46:44] Whether you're you know, I've seen it from street level criminals all the way up to CEOs and white collar people accused of white collar offenses. All right, cool. This moment, you may be sitting next to your lawyers, but you are alone before a judge and before the law and facing some very serious allegations. And it is a moment that I. Steven: [00:47:04] Think he's facing some very unserious allegations. I know you mean serious crimes, but they're very unserious allegations. This is the issue right here. I mean, do you really want to be in a country where the law can be applied selectively and you have to live in constant fear? I mean, think about this for a sec. How many agents do they add to the to the IRS? Was it 70,000? I'm going by rote. I'm saying 70,000. Look at how they've expanded. Was it over 80, 87,000? Speaker4: [00:47:26] 87,000? Steven: [00:47:27] Is that what it was? I know that. I don't know if they were hires or employees or. Exactly. They tried to say, oh, that's actually that's that's not true. They're not going to be agents. There are people who will be employed. So I just want to make sure that if I get fact checked, you. Speaker16: [00:47:37] Guys have that number. But they've expanded. Steven: [00:47:39] The IRS, they've expanded the FBI, they've expanded the CIA. You look at what they want to do with the TikTok bill, right. This has nothing to do with Banning TikTok, which I support. If it's spying on Americans, it has everything to do with being able to access your ring camera, for crying out loud. And there's an indictment and an arraignment of not only a former president or sitting president, depending on how you look at it. I consider a sitting president, but also right now, the. Speaker16: [00:48:01] Front runner for the nominee of the. Steven: [00:48:02] Opposition. Speaker16: [00:48:03] Party. You think they won't do it to you? You think they won't do it to you? And to give you an example. Steven: [00:48:07] As as far as selective. Speaker16: [00:48:09] Application of the law, well, again, there are people who've. Steven: [00:48:11] Broken the law with consequences that directly affect your. Speaker16: [00:48:15] National security. Have you forgotten that Eric Swalwell was caught banging a Chinese spy? Consequence free. There haven't been punishments and it's even worse now. It's like he's rubbing our faces in it. Speaker4: [00:48:27] If you look at this, a misdemeanor. Oh, geez. Steven: [00:48:31] Why would you even put it there? Speaker16: [00:48:32] He went to see her. He went to JCPenney to have that taken. Speaker2: [00:48:38] He brought his own props. Speaker16: [00:48:40] And you've heard this. That's that's an entire group of people don't refer to them as. Steven: [00:48:46] The flag. Speaker4: [00:48:47] Behind them was made by his wife. She was three. Speaker16: [00:48:52] Do we have the montage? Steven: [00:48:54] I believe above the law. Yeah, above the law. Speaker16: [00:48:56] So this is the left saying that. No, this is what they're going to try and. Steven: [00:48:58] Say about Donald Trump, you know, Eric Swalwell. But we'll get into some other examples. Nobody. Speaker16: [00:49:02] Nobody. Steven: [00:49:02] But I mean, nobody. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking maybe some maybe some some somebody. Nobody. Speaker4: [00:49:08] I'm biting my tongue right now so you can get to the I don't want to blow the reveal. Steven: [00:49:13] We call it the Prestige. And by that, in this program, we mean disappointment. Here they are saying nobody is above the law. Speaker20: [00:49:20] No one is above the law, not even a former president of the United States. Your mushroom. Speaker4: [00:49:24] No person is above the law in this country. No one is above the law. I hate that last guy. What was. Speaker16: [00:49:31] That? Who was that? That guy was more liver spot than head. Was that. Speaker2: [00:49:35] All five? Three of. Speaker4: [00:49:36] Them. Oh, my God. He's ancient now. That looked like he looked like one of the whitakers. That family like. Speaker16: [00:49:41] That's Robert Reich. I had no idea he looked like that. Now, Robert. Steven: [00:49:44] Reich, he looks like Richard Dreyfuss. Speaker16: [00:49:46] If he sat out on a sundial. Steven: [00:49:47] Yeah, he's the. Speaker2: [00:49:48] Dumbest smart person I've ever seen in my life. Oh, my word. Looks like one of the Berkeley. That's the face your children. Speaker16: [00:49:54] That's a face. Steven: [00:49:54] Twisted by evil. He looks like he should be in a Freddy's boiler room. Speaker4: [00:49:57] You ever seen the Whitaker family in West Virginia? That documentary? No. Have I know. Were they like the they're so inbred, they actually bark at people and shit. It was raking it. I'm saying he looks like the late he was a watch. Steven: [00:50:09] You're going to get even more pissed. You see him in an Applebee's commercial? He's two for 20. Yeah. By the way, you miss your chance, right? Speaker2: [00:50:15] 87,000 new IRS agents. Well, yeah, there. Speaker4: [00:50:17] Was 40,000 of them on my front lawn. Most of them I slipped up. There was some mustard on my 1099. Was it deli mustard? I say that because I went into a deli in upstate New York and it said taxes done here behind the deli. Really? Yes. Speaker16: [00:50:34] Oh, that must have been that was that was Geithner's mistake. That's exactly right. You don't get it done at Bob's big boy. I. Speaker4: [00:50:40] I never forgot that. Speaker16: [00:50:41] You get a two for 20 and. Steven: [00:50:43] You get indicted. Speaker4: [00:50:44] Must mustard on a 1099. That doesn't work in a club at midnight. Speaker16: [00:50:47] No, it only works if you're a CNN play by play host on your cummerbund. Steven: [00:50:51] What is that. Speaker2: [00:50:51] Thing? Let me comment about Geithner. And I know we have a clip of him, but Geithner actually was being confirmed as secretary of treasury. Yes. Which, you know, makes you think that they know how to deal with money, right? Yeah, but, you know, money in general. Steven: [00:51:05] So he does know how to deal with money. He knows how to lie. Speaker2: [00:51:07] He does know how to lie. But so the clip that we're going to play you is basically is something like his closing statement, so to speak, where he is addressing something that got brought up on the fly in his hearing. Yes. Where he gets challenged with, hey, you're a tax cheat, You're a tax cheat. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. And he's like, well, I'll just you know, I'll just I'll take care of that. Steven: [00:51:25] Yes. This is clip B3 and it's hilarious. Speaker5: [00:51:28] Senators, before I finish, I want to address directly the concerns many of you have raised about the mistakes I made in preparing my tax returns. Speaker4: [00:51:35] Just that right there. Speaker5: [00:51:36] These were careless mistakes. They are avoidable mistakes, but they were unintentional. I should have been more careful. I take full responsibility for them. Did he lose? I bet your haircut back and corrected these errors and paid what I owed. Speaker16: [00:51:53] Did he just like forget to take off his Spock ears before he did this? Oh, my God. Speaker4: [00:51:56] That's a weird looking guy. Steven: [00:51:57] That's difficult, for crying out loud. To be the mayor of. Speaker4: [00:51:59] It was a careless error as opposed to the careful errors we make. Yes, exactly. So this is fucking jerkoff long after. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:52:07] The careful errors that I make on purpose, right? No. So this is long after he had made these mistakes. They brought it up in the hearing and it's like, I'm sorry that no American citizen would be able to sit before an IRS agent. Even some of the 87,000 newbies that are out there with Glocks and say, Whoops. Speaker16: [00:52:24] My bad, he blames TurboTax. That's not a joke. Yes, exactly. He actually, like he tried to pass the buck to TurboTax. Steven: [00:52:31] Yeah. Speaker16: [00:52:31] Think about that. That was a significant. Speaker2: [00:52:33] Amount of money that he owed to. Steven: [00:52:34] Like, wait a second. Speaker16: [00:52:35] You're going to be secretary of Treasury and you're blaming TurboTax. Steven: [00:52:39] Do you know what TurboTax does? Speaker2: [00:52:40] They make you sign a waiver that says you can't blame us, right? Speaker16: [00:52:43] Yeah, literally. Speaker2: [00:52:43] Cannot blame them for any problems with your filing. Otherwise, they'd be open to lawsuits from everyone if they had a problem. Speaker16: [00:52:49] Well, that's Hillary Clinton blamed the server. Steven: [00:52:50] She blamed it on Microsoft Excel. Well. Speaker2: [00:52:53] Can't take care of you. Speaker4: [00:52:54] Guys are still paying taxes, asshole. That's so cute. That's so quaint. That's adorable. Speaker16: [00:52:59] All right. Is there anything, by the way, that we need to be updated On the tap. Let's hear CNN. And then I want to go to another example of I don't. Steven: [00:53:04] Know if you remember, Hillary Clinton broke the law. And, you know, I mean hearsay. And by hearsay, I mean he murdered a guy, Mr. Brag. Speaker8: [00:53:11] About Trump going through a different door. Speaker14: [00:53:13] Oh, do they hold on. I want to see this division. Speaker17: [00:53:16] It's an executive level position, very prestigious. And like I said, I really thought. Speaker4: [00:53:19] We had something there. No, sorry. I thought. Speaker16: [00:53:20] I was like, you know, it's a. Steven: [00:53:21] Good actor. It's like. The candidate a Goodyear with birds. But I was hoping we'd see Trump take one more step. Speaker16: [00:53:26] Why aren't they? You know, I know they literally aren't. Steven: [00:53:29] Nothing is moving. Did they say, hey. Speaker16: [00:53:31] You know what we're going to make today? Steven: [00:53:32] Stream vintage? That's we're going to go vintage. Yes. Speaker16: [00:53:35] They're like no. Steven: [00:53:36] Talkies. Speaker2: [00:53:37] Everybody cares just about the picture of Trump. That's it. Speaker4: [00:53:39] They were following the car like it was a Bronco. Then they do this to you? Yeah, I. Speaker16: [00:53:43] Know. Steven: [00:53:43] Could someone bring that up? The footage of his car moving, it looked like Johnny side by side next to O.J. And so we could actually put them side by side. It really was striking how they did it. They really did. Speaker4: [00:53:52] Exact same direction. I'm telling you, it was the same guy they brought him in from 30 years ago. Steven: [00:53:58] Okay. So now we bring. Speaker2: [00:53:59] Up CNN just for a. Speaker17: [00:54:00] Second, I should say. He's he's an assistant district attorney, very senior, seasoned, excellent lawyer who they are having be the ADA. Who? The ADA meaning assistant district attorney, who will be arraigning Mr. Trump and speaking on the record. Speaker14: [00:54:17] So and the interesting context you also brought up is that Susan Hoffinger, the woman with the white shirt and black jacket sitting behind Chris Conroy at the prosecutor's table, just defeated in court. They're analyzing the still Susan and. Speaker16: [00:54:33] The white. Steven: [00:54:33] Shirt with the lapels out, like Ray Liotta in. Speaker4: [00:54:36] Goodfellas. He's a fan of TJ Max Yes. Speaker16: [00:54:38] Talbots. Speaker14: [00:54:39] Optimization case, which was a big victory for District Attorney Alvin Bragg, I believe, Right? Speaker17: [00:54:45] Exactly. Exactly right. 17 felony count conviction against the Trump Organization. Speaker14: [00:54:50] Felony and carry a felony. Steven: [00:54:52] Drink. I won't have to drink. I'm getting a felony drink. Speaker14: [00:54:55] Can we come up. Speaker4: [00:54:56] With a more common word? Speaker2: [00:54:57] I just need more drinking, that's all. I needed a. Speaker14: [00:55:00] Prosecutor dying. Speaker17: [00:55:00] Over here. But the end result was fines for the Trump. Steven: [00:55:03] We should also have we should add that you have to drink if a CNN host has a BMI over 40. Speaker17: [00:55:07] Even though this particular proceeding today. Speaker2: [00:55:10] By the way, I just think we have to do this because he actually nailed it. The Whitaker family. Can we bring up the picture of the Whitaker family right here for everybody to see? Do we have it? I can't believe that's pretty. Oh, my. Steven: [00:55:21] Word. Can we bring back can we do it side by side with. Speaker4: [00:55:23] Reich guys doing a documentary? It's the most fascinating. He's followed him for, like eight years. Yeah. And the guy in the middle literally barks. He can't talk like he just buck. Like that's what happened. Just like Janice, you know? I don't know why he picked her. I don't know. She looks like Newt Gingrich transitioning because. Steven: [00:55:43] Because Helen Keller is not real. Yeah, you know that, right? Total. The Helen Keller thing. Don't break my heart. Look, look, look, look, look. Speaker2: [00:55:51] I'm sorry. Steven: [00:55:52] Sorry. Janet Yellen used to have. Speaker16: [00:55:54] A poster on your wall. All the kids have Farrah Fawcett. Steven: [00:55:57] You had Helen Keller? Speaker4: [00:55:58] Yeah, the Sally Fields. Speaker16: [00:56:00] Okay. What are they What were you saying, Gerald? Speaker2: [00:56:02] Well, there was a side by side that. Steven: [00:56:03] Pull it back. Speaker16: [00:56:04] Oh, bring it back up of. Steven: [00:56:05] Reich and the. Speaker2: [00:56:05] No, no, no, not Reich. But Yellen you were mentioning. Steven: [00:56:07] Oh, yeah. Speaker4: [00:56:09] Holy shit, it's Soros. I had it wrong. It's Soros. Speaker16: [00:56:11] Yellen, Podling. Yeah. You guys. I know it's pretty tough, though. Helen Keller. I don't know if you guys it's just not true. Steven: [00:56:17] You know what? The chance you know how many people who are blind and deaf at two years old, how many of them throughout all of human history, including up to today, have learned how to communicate or speak? Speaker4: [00:56:25] Well, I know of one. My cousin David. Speaker16: [00:56:28] Well, we're off the documentary story. Speaker4: [00:56:30] No, it's. Steven: [00:56:30] Zero. It's zero. And if you look at what's the name, was it an Anne Sullivan? Anne Sullivan was her handler. If you look, you can actually find writings, by the way, from Helen Keller endorsing the Socialist Party communist manifestos. Right. She was writing all these and they just so happened to match her handlers writings. Speaker4: [00:56:48] Stop deep diving. You're ruining my. All right? You're ruining my ruining your hero bus. No, my heroes. Speaker16: [00:56:54] Well, you know what they say. Steven: [00:56:55] Your heroes don't. Speaker16: [00:56:55] Meet your heroes. Steven: [00:56:56] Especially if they greet you with. Speaker4: [00:56:58] A bow. Speaker16: [00:57:01] That's. That's next to the Well, This is what happened. She'd go into the palm and she'd go, okay, come here. And she'd be like, Yes. And she is saying that the bourgeoisie will fall. Yeah. Uh huh. And she is saying that the, the the common man must rise up and pursue rights and she shit herself. Speaker4: [00:57:22] Yeah. It's like Flipper. What? He's stuck in a well. Good boy. Speaker16: [00:57:29] Remember your handler and Sullivan behind closed doors is a lesbian. Speaker2: [00:57:35] You're about to be raped by the other dolphins. Speaker4: [00:57:37] Oh, Jesus. He's good with that sound. That. Speaker16: [00:57:40] What's that? Dolphins for fun. They rape other. They gang rape other dolphins just to show. Steven: [00:57:44] Them who's boss. Speaker16: [00:57:44] So to the Crips, we don't make shows about the Crips being cool thing. They're both mammals. Gerald. Speaker4: [00:57:50] I know when I say Crips, I mean they actually rape dolphins, not other gang members. Yeah, that's. Speaker16: [00:57:54] That's. Come on. None of them swim. We're going to be bringing water. Oh, my. Speaker4: [00:57:59] God. You're right. That whole body density thing. Yeah. Speaker16: [00:58:04] That's it. Yeah, I was. I was making a very. I was making a deep dive analysis joke. Steven: [00:58:07] About the length of the tibia. Speaker4: [00:58:10] That's why they can't swim. I looked it up. Yeah, exactly. Oh. Speaker16: [00:58:14] All right. What do you wanted to bring up? Cnn. Do we want to. Steven: [00:58:16] Continue with the crimes? Gerald, you let me know what we want to continue with here. What I'm curious to see. Speaker2: [00:58:20] What they're talking about, because I. Steven: [00:58:21] Nothing, they're talking about a still. Speaker2: [00:58:23] Yeah. But I want everybody to understand this. So we've got the still on one side of CNN here. Right. And so then we've got the the four second perp walk of Donald Trump that will get again. Will there be like moments ago, moments ago, moments ago, just kind of replay it on a loop. Obviously, they're waiting for him to leave. The only thing that's interesting right now is that when he does leave, that should coincide with these charges being released and getting out. So we'll know what these charges actually are and if there's anything else that we need to kind of keep an eye on. And then, guys, check for me out there. If Bragg has scheduled his press conference yet, because I know he's going to go out there and talk about right after they said he was because he'd like to get reelected. Yes, exactly. So he'll he'll make all the hay out of this. Speaker16: [00:58:59] Ignore all the violent felons raping you. Steven: [00:59:02] Yes, yes, yes. Speaker16: [00:59:03] No, right now in the audience. That's why he has. Steven: [00:59:05] He has a dais. Speaker2: [00:59:06] If you ride the subway, they're all there. Speaker4: [00:59:08] Yes. It's the F car for a reason. Yeah. Speaker2: [00:59:12] This is can't even take the D train anywhere. Speaker16: [00:59:15] No, he subscribes to the broken dreams theory. Steven: [00:59:17] It's a little bit different from Giuliani. The broken David theory. What do we do? We want to go to the crimes so we can kind of actually draw that comparison. That's what I was on before. You. Sure. We had to leave and go to CNN? Yeah, rudely cut me off. Speaker2: [00:59:29] You know what? That is fair and I apologize. Steven: [00:59:31] It is Hashtag. Speaker16: [00:59:31] Crowder, live stream. Steven: [00:59:32] We have two more weeks free of mug club loudmouth crowder.com/mug club Nick DiPaolo show Monday through Thursday, 5 p.m. is it Eastern or central eastern? Speaker16: [00:59:40] 5 p.m.. Steven: [00:59:40] Eastern. You guys get to watch it. You're there on Mug Club. So we're really excited. We're going to have that montage, too, of him back in. Tough crowd. Speaker4: [00:59:45] Kenny Rogers is on the show, right? Jesus Christ. Speaker16: [00:59:48] I can't pick a good picture of you. He's the last one. He's like, No, that's a guy. That's the one I want. That's the one. My favorite one. Oh, you like the Kenny Rogers? Speaker4: [00:59:55] Actually whack off. Speaker2: [00:59:55] Side by side is the one you really want. Guys, this is what we're looking for here. The what? This side by side is what you're looking for. Which side. Speaker4: [01:00:01] By side? Oh, God, I don't want to see. Yes, yes. Oh, that's. That was it. You got it. Steven: [01:00:07] Oh, gosh, I hear the. Speaker4: [01:00:08] That's when. That's when. What's his name? Reich was healthy, right? He's 34 years old today. Speaker16: [01:00:13] Yes, exactly. That's where he was spry, right. Is it Reich. Speaker4: [01:00:17] Like Third Reich? Yeah, exactly. Reich He's a midget, too, remember? Speaker2: [01:00:20] He is five. I said five. Three for a reason. He's probably four nine. I was only. Speaker4: [01:00:23] I don't even know. Steven: [01:00:23] Yeah, he's really tiny. Very, very small. No, he makes Danny DeVito look gargantuan. He does? Yeah. Let's grab the Hillary Clinton clip. I believe, in case you've forgotten what we talk about, the law this directly could affect Americans as a matter of national security. Which one is Hillary Clinton? Might be running again. Speaker2: [01:00:38] To clip B2 oh B2 okay. Yeah. Speaker6: [01:00:42] Got it. Although there is evidence. Speaker14: [01:00:45] Of potential violations of. Speaker6: [01:00:47] The statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Speaker18: [01:00:56] Hmm. Speaker4: [01:00:56] Word reasonable? Steven: [01:00:57] Yeah, exactly. Reasonable. Really? I always. Speaker2: [01:00:59] Classified documents. So does that break the law? Yes. Is that more of a guideline, I guess, than. Than a law? Yes. Speaker16: [01:01:06] The suggestion, yes, There are what we call. Steven: [01:01:08] Hard and fast rules. And yeah, there are soft rules. Speaker2: [01:01:11] And we've made the case here I am not for prosecuting people because they're of the other political party, but I am now. Well. Speaker4: [01:01:19] You know. Speaker2: [01:01:20] Look, if the gloves are off, I guess that's right. Right. So it's the nuclear option all over again. But if you are going to say to the American citizens, like so many people out there who have gotten themselves into trouble, like Timothy Geithner saying, hey, I didn't do this on purpose, they they can't get a pass when we don't. Right. That's not equal application of the law. And so, look, I'm fine if you're willing to say, hey, if you didn't do it on purpose, fine, we'll give you one. Right? Right. But do it for everybody. Right. And that's not what you're doing here. Steven: [01:01:46] Well, by the way, let's not even let's not forget Biden. Let's not forget his family. I know it's always funny because his son smoked Parmesan cheese and a crack pipe and threw a, you know, 38 special on grade school for most of that grade school dumpster. That's not even a joke. Threw a gun into a dumpster by a grade school that I don't even think. Speaker16: [01:02:02] He was allowed to. Steven: [01:02:03] Be. Speaker16: [01:02:04] Within 100 yards of. Well, to be clear. So I don't even know how many laws. Steven: [01:02:07] Were broken there. I feel like a cop would just show up and be like, what do you where do I start? I don't even want to get yourself in the car. But Biden himself, right? This is a guy who has gotten off completely scot free when we're talking about Biden family members. They've actually been receiving payments, right, connected to the Communist Chinese party. This is overlay CNN. This comes from house.gov We have. What else do we have here? What have they admitted to with the Joe Biden's. Speaker16: [01:02:32] Yeah. What have they actually. Steven: [01:02:33] Admitted to doing? Like we're talking about Burisma when we're talking about the corruption? Well, so because people will say, well, it hasn't been proven, but Biden. Speaker16: [01:02:39] Has admitted I mean, we know they've admitted. Steven: [01:02:41] To the crack. They've admitted to smoking the porn. He admitted to, you know, showering with his daughter before after it was age appropriate. Speaker4: [01:02:46] And what is wrong with that? Steven: [01:02:47] All of that. I mean, look, mishandling classified documents. Speaker2: [01:02:50] He had classified documents in his Corvette, in his garage, in a house, because that's where you keep classified documents, is in the front seat of your Corvette. And they gave. Steven: [01:02:57] Donald Trump crap for having a box that said classified in a safe. Speaker2: [01:03:01] Yes, exactly. That was padlocked per the I don't know who came down there. Department of Justice came down and padlocked it or whoever does that stuff. Right? No, but I mean, we had we had a ton of this stuff on video, right, for Hunter Biden, Right on video on his laptop. They have evidence right now to go. And then he falsified documents. And the application for a gun. A gun actually lied about that. Yeah, right. That's that's a crime that you can prosecute. In fact, researchers there's a there's a really good like PDF looking file that shows like 15 or 20 different charges and the people that were responsible. But just from Hunter Biden alone. And look, again, I don't want you to go after his son for no reason, but this guy is like a serial offender. Not for no reason. There's a ton of reason. Yeah, he is a serial offender. Speaker4: [01:03:42] And a great date. Yeah. Steven: [01:03:44] Well, if you ask his. Speaker16: [01:03:45] Niece if you're 14, she's. Speaker4: [01:03:47] Oh, don't confuse him with his father now. Steven: [01:03:49] Oh, yeah? Well, they bleed together at a certain point. Speaker4: [01:03:52] That is such a trope. Speaker16: [01:03:53] It's just if you're, if you're a if you're one of the Biden. Steven: [01:03:56] Daughters and you're taking a shower, you just see the lock with a drill and it's going. Speaker2: [01:04:01] Yeah, exactly. Steven: [01:04:02] The screw hits the floor. Speaker16: [01:04:04] I mean, sniffing kids is enough. It is. Steven: [01:04:06] It's enough. Of course, all the rest of it is. But that's enough. If it's my kid and someone's sniffing my son or my daughter and I go and get off me, you fungus. And he still keeps doing it. Someone's getting an ass beating. Yeah. Speaker2: [01:04:15] No, absolutely. No, it's a PDF document. It's kind of funny. I just saw this today that somebody compiled it because I was thinking about we need to compile this and it literally has the crimes of Hunter Biden and like the codes that he's violated by doing these certain things, the dates and the accomplices, you've got it all there. It's like, here have your case. Speaker16: [01:04:32] But you know what, though? You know what I like about Hunter Biden? Steven: [01:04:34] Because right now we're talking about the ins and outs and what's a felony and what's a misdemeanor and what's tax evasion. Right. Hunter Biden commits crimes that all of us can understand in plain English. You know, pedophilia, rape, like the layman, can understand his crimes. You know what I mean? He's not uppity about his pretty pretty about his incestuous rape. Which really have to give it to him, Right. He's a man of the people. File rapists, That's a thing. Speaker16: [01:04:56] So Fauci. Steven: [01:04:58] By the way, is also it's not just the people who are elected. It's the people who are unelected when we talk about the swamp. So let's go into some other. Fauci By the way, this is was a COVID czar, right? You didn't vote for COVID czar. Just to be clear, it was just you know, it's a czar. It's one of those things. Right. And he stated that scientists did not need to disclose royalties received from drug companies. By the way, he received these as well. Speaker7: [01:05:18] Okay. So let me give you some information, first of all. Well, according to the regulations, people who receive royalties are not required to divulge them. Speaker4: [01:05:28] Even on. Steven: [01:05:29] Their financial. Speaker14: [01:05:30] Statement according to the Bayh-dole Act. Steven: [01:05:34] He also said AIDS was transmissible, you know, through cereal boxes. Air. Air. Yeah. Yep. Airborne. He was one of those guys. Let's go and see what CNN is saying. Maybe there's another network that we need to go to because CNN is just are all networks. Can you guys let us know? Mission control. Speaker16: [01:05:46] Is every network just you know. Speaker4: [01:05:48] You got to go TMZ running. Speaker3: [01:05:49] Stills is because there's no cameras allowed in. Know. Steven: [01:05:52] We know that. Yes, I know that, obviously. Speaker16: [01:05:55] What mission control do you think that. I don't know. There aren't it's I haven't written down I have it here. Speaker2: [01:05:59] Yeah. So you got to. Speaker16: [01:05:59] Understand that they could have hosts on television. Yeah. There are no hosts. Speaker4: [01:06:03] Yeah, TMZ, TMZ. Speaker2: [01:06:05] Steve, you know what we should do? We should go to just. Just for funsies. We should probably go to MSNBC here in just a minute. Steven: [01:06:10] Let's go to MSNBC. You get better. Speaker4: [01:06:13] Coverage on the Weather Channel, for. Speaker16: [01:06:14] Crying out loud. The pterodactyl and the and the Flintstones. Steven: [01:06:16] Could get it done faster than this. Speaker16: [01:06:19] This indictment sucks. Speaker4: [01:06:21] It's a living. Steven: [01:06:23] Whatever it is what they say. They're clever, those little dinosaurs. You know what I mean? Speaker16: [01:06:26] They always have their quips. They really are. It would be so awesome. Speaker2: [01:06:29] Msnbc because we know that those guys are going to be incredibly far left, but now is the time to do that because, you know, people will be drunk in five minutes because of the words they'll say. That's right. By the way, some of our some of our mission control was like, oh, he just said, hush money. I'm like, Yeah, but we don't have it on the screen. He goes, Yeah, but it's a drinking rule you have to drink. All right. Steven: [01:06:45] Well, they can always tweet us and let us know and use the hashtag Crowder Crowder election. They're still they're just doing the stills. Speaker16: [01:06:51] Did everyone have a meeting that we didn't. Steven: [01:06:52] Know about. Speaker16: [01:06:55] Msnbc? Speaker2: [01:06:55] We we want better worse coverage from you. Speaker16: [01:06:58] For crying out loud. And what is that that lady just go Does she go into the barber and say, Give me the Elephant Man? Speaker4: [01:07:04] Yeah, that's exactly right. Look at her. She's the movie mask. Speaker16: [01:07:07] Yes. I was confused. Yeah, they're similar. Eric Stoltz. Yes. They're looking. Speaker2: [01:07:11] For opportunities to walk out in front of all the cameras. Speaker16: [01:07:14] Which is the one they should be spinning around. No, no, no, no, no. Was that mask or was that. Steven: [01:07:18] No, that. Speaker16: [01:07:18] Was Elephant Man. Okay. Speaker4: [01:07:19] They picked him up. Speaker16: [01:07:20] And I always get. Steven: [01:07:20] Him confused. Speaker4: [01:07:21] But to feel good hits. Speaker16: [01:07:23] Yes, exactly. Steven: [01:07:24] The point is, God does not shine upon that lady. Let's let's grab let's grab what they're saying. At least hear what they're actually saying. Speaker3: [01:07:31] Prior DA, the DA who stepped down and ended his term in December of 2021, just before Alvin Bragg took over in January of 2022. Her interview gave some. Speaker16: [01:07:45] I wish we had loaded. Steven: [01:07:46] Guns in the studio right now. That'd be fair. Yeah. I should get my shotgun and just install a tow trigger. I cannot believe what these people are doing. There's this is the problem with with legacy media is there is no way for them to add value, right. If they can't just fabricate something out. This is happening right now their way. Hey, how about you have someone come on who's an expert? How about you give someone some context? How about you go through some myths that people may for some reason be under the guise that they're true? Speaker16: [01:08:09] How about you help arm your audience with information? They completely you know why their ratings are down. Steven: [01:08:14] They completely take your viewership for granted. Speaker16: [01:08:16] Look at this. I have never. Steven: [01:08:17] Seen broadcast news this boring. It's usually. Speaker16: [01:08:21] Criticized for being salacious. Steven: [01:08:22] And making a. Speaker16: [01:08:23] Story out of nothing. You know why? Because I think they know that there's nothing and they're really trying to make. Steven: [01:08:27] Something stick at this point. So, like, if we just play it somber and serious, people will think this is not a clown show. Speaker4: [01:08:32] Why don't they do what they do when there's a rain delay? Cut to some B-movie. Yes. You know, on TBS. Then you come back to the. Speaker2: [01:08:39] Because the B-movie would be far better than what? Yes, exactly. Speaker3: [01:08:42] It'd be. Speaker16: [01:08:43] Right. People like man. No, I was watching Sharknado. Speaker4: [01:08:46] Yeah, exactly. Speaker2: [01:08:48] Oh, the charges are released. Speaker16: [01:08:49] Oh, come on. You just interrupted the Meg for Roadhouse. Speaker2: [01:08:54] We've got. We've got an interesting kind of a fun side by side here that we can bring up of the Ford Bronco. Steven: [01:08:59] Oh, the Ford Bronco. And this is how they showed you. For those of you who. Speaker16: [01:09:02] Weren't tuned in yet. Steven: [01:09:02] This is how CNN was showing Donald Trump getting to the. Speaker2: [01:09:06] There we have the Ford Bronco. That looks like the motorcade, though. I mean, come on. Yeah, there you go. It's not an image. It's not a no, it's not exactly. It's just the photo. Right. Right. Speaker16: [01:09:15] It's pretty damn close. Speaker2: [01:09:17] Coverage of that. Speaker16: [01:09:18] I mean, you could just. Steven: [01:09:18] Reverse the image and it would be going the same direction. You guys don't know how to hit the shift key. Speaker16: [01:09:26] I guess not. Let's you know, let's give you a little bit. Steven: [01:09:27] Of information here on the judge. A lot of people may not know about this judge. What we're talking about, this being a political witch hunt. It's Juan Merchan. Hopefully I have that right. Merchan, Juan Merchan. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can guess it's going to be presiding over this. Okay. He was appointed as a family court judge by Mr. Bloomberg. Michael Bloomberg. Really? Mike's a man of the people. Mr. Bloomberg. Republican. And of course, he's not allowing cameras in there right now. We all know that. That's why they're on this. Still. Still as well. And let's look at some of his. Well, they just mentioned Weisselberg, by the way. Weisselberg is the only person who was guilty, I think was it was it 15 counts or was it five counts? But this is the only guy who's been at all associated was a 15. It was in the teens. Speaker2: [01:10:06] I thought it was 17, but the. Steven: [01:10:08] 17 at one point it was 15. I think they may be taxed on like, you know, tack some more counts on there. That's one. I don't want one. Okay. So it was. Speaker16: [01:10:15] The he was a. Steven: [01:10:16] Ceo of the Trump Organization, just to be clear. So you guys have all the evidence available, A lot of COCOM. Allen Weisselberg, they just mentioned him. They want to do the guilt by association. And this was actually the same judge, by the way, who presided over that case. So you would think that that might. Speaker16: [01:10:29] Be somewhat a. Steven: [01:10:30] Conflict of interest. I don't know, since it's a different case. But again, this is someone who this guy actually pled guilty and this guy is someone who they desperately want to associate Trump with. Speaker2: [01:10:38] He prevents every single time they brought it up, it was the Trump organization. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Now, look, I understand that. That's true. Yes. But they also understand that Donald Trump was not directing this person to do anything with the Trump Organization. Right? He's got a very large enterprise. Yes. He probably had no idea what was going on with how they classified things. Steven: [01:10:57] And here's why it's relevant. That case, the Weisselberg case. You have this case case. We didn't even play the drinking game that much. The judge said that he wished this is a quote. He wished he could impose a tougher penalty. Speaker4: [01:11:09] Yeah. On weisselberg. Speaker16: [01:11:10] Yeah. He got five. Speaker2: [01:11:11] Months in prison for a white collar crime. Yes. White collar. White collar. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Double check myself. Steven: [01:11:17] I don't think he was sent to a white collar prison. Speaker4: [01:11:19] Probably an immigrant hotel. It's selective. Speaker2: [01:11:21] Prosecution. So, again. Steven: [01:11:22] The federal stuff. Speaker2: [01:11:23] 2008. Anything ring a bell here with like, Goldman Sachs and all these guys basically just playing with other people's money? Right. They got hauled before Congress, but that was it, right? I mean, one guy was sent to prison for something. Speaker16: [01:11:35] Well, Madoff had. Steven: [01:11:35] A crappy film made with De Niro about him, but Michelle Pfeiffer still. Speaker16: [01:11:39] Looks good. Speaker4: [01:11:43] Was she in that? She was in. Speaker16: [01:11:44] That what was it? The Wizard of Lies? Steven: [01:11:46] Is that what it was? Oh, was it the HBO one? Yeah. Speaker16: [01:11:48] Michelle Pfeiffer. Steven: [01:11:49] She's a good looking lady. I loved. Speaker2: [01:11:50] Her. Robert De Niro. One where he played. Yeah. De Niro. Steven: [01:11:53] Yeah. Where he's one note. Now we're all supposed to act like he's still a fantastic actor. Post Rocky Bullwinkle to a madoff. Speaker16: [01:12:01] Yes. You're not Madoff. Listen, I am Madoff, all right? Okay. I. Madoff. I made off with the money I made off. What? What is this? Give him the Emmy. Just. He just wins everything. It was. Steven: [01:12:12] Horrible. Wizard of Lies. But Michelle Pfeiffer looked good. That's that's the key takeaway from all of this. The key takeaway, because I know what you're saying. Speaker16: [01:12:17] Hey, there's not a lot. Steven: [01:12:18] Here right now as far as CNN, if nothing else. Speaker16: [01:12:21] They can never take from you that. Steven: [01:12:23] Michelle Pfeiffer still looks good. You'll probably go look her up after this stream. And that's something you can take with you for the rest of your days. But you're right, De Niro wasn't believable. Speaker4: [01:12:30] As you know, it's like casting and Nathan Lane as Brian Piccolo in the remake, you know? I mean, I'm sorry. It's the fourth. Speaker16: [01:12:38] And long and they won't let me punt. Was that the line? Lynn Yeah, that's right. Yes. Which you know what? Speaker4: [01:12:46] That's even a better that would have been a better reference. It's similar. Charles Nelson Reilly is Yeah, I'm Rudy. Speaker16: [01:12:54] I'm going to sack him. Steven: [01:12:58] Because he's Notre Dame. He actually still thinks Rudy's worth a damn. Speaker14: [01:13:01] Hello? Steven: [01:13:06] He's great with the soundboard. He's the best. Speaker16: [01:13:08] I know. He's so quick. Speaker4: [01:13:09] That I missed it. Speaker2: [01:13:09] He acts like it's easy to be a walk on somewhere. They beat the hell out of you. That guy deserved to get a chance to go on the field because that's what that game is reserved. Speaker16: [01:13:17] You know You're talking to a walk on. Steven: [01:13:18] Yes. Speaker16: [01:13:19] Me too. You should respect. Yeah, I'm saying he's a walk on, but he. Steven: [01:13:21] Actually deserved his. Speaker16: [01:13:22] Spot. Steven: [01:13:22] Rudy should have been sleeping in a janitor's closet for the rest of his life. He did. I know. Speaker16: [01:13:27] You also said he came to give a. Steven: [01:13:28] Motivational speech and he was a prick. Oh, he was terrible. Speaker16: [01:13:30] Yeah. Speaker4: [01:13:30] Total horrible. Well, he just served me at. At Arby's. Yeah. I don't want to. I don't want to say things went awry, but. Yeah, well, you know, No, it was a good. Speaker2: [01:13:39] Movie that nothing in can serve. Nothing, Right. I like. Speaker4: [01:13:42] That movie. I mean, that was the movie's. That's a true story. That is a true story. They didn't embellish it anyway, did they? I mean, a little bit. Speaker2: [01:13:47] But, you know, it's not really relevant to this conversation. I don't know why you bring that up. Nick. Jonathan. Speaker4: [01:13:53] You're on camera. You have to say something. Speaker2: [01:13:55] He did essentially have a sack. Like I've watched the actual footage and he did actually get to the quarterback. It was a I think 2 or 3 people met kind of at the same time. So it wasn't just him like he got an assist, but very, very close to it. And the senior kind of the last home game for seniors is usually reserved for a team that's not all that great, so that you can play seniors that maybe weren't starters or people that normally dressed. It's kind of like this. Thank you for all of the hard work because they certainly didn't get a scholarship. Speaker4: [01:14:18] Yeah, Yeah. It was like. Speaker16: [01:14:19] Affirmative action. Steven: [01:14:20] For short fat Irish guys. Speaker2: [01:14:21] Well, it's basically payment for services rendered. Yeah. There you. Speaker16: [01:14:25] Go. Yeah. Steven: [01:14:25] There you go. Yeah, I. I'm not a fan of the movie. I've seen straighter Moulin Rouge conventions. Speaker2: [01:14:30] You have? Interesting that you should say that. Steven: [01:14:33] See Nickelback concerts with more gravitas than Rudy. Oh, is this going to end? I have no idea. I'm at the end of my This is like a Shyamalan film. There's going to be a twist. No. Oh, he gets he gets to play. Yeah, sure. Yeah. You feel good. Speaker2: [01:14:43] University in the world. Speaker16: [01:14:44] We should all feel good about mediocrity. All right. Is there something. Steven: [01:14:47] That we missed that we're going to go really quickly to a break because. I have to pee and we'll come back and live fact check this as it continues to develop, which right now it seems like there's nothing. Speaker3: [01:14:56] It's not. Speaker2: [01:14:56] Well, from CNN, that's the thing. So we've we understood that until these documents were released, there's only so much that you can talk about. Cnn and everybody else didn't. They've been covering it. Speaker16: [01:15:05] Hence why we're discussing Rudy. Steven: [01:15:06] Right. Exactly. And its merits. Speaker2: [01:15:08] But do you want to do you want to play the the. Speaker16: [01:15:12] Well, yeah. Let's do a quick. Steven: [01:15:12] Two minute, two minute break here and we'll be right back because we have some info to go get there from Mission Control. Okay. All right. We'll be right back. Speaker16: [01:15:18] It's Crowder. No, he was just stabbed. What? Oh, jeez. Well, I thought he was telling the truth because there was a black guy. It's the security guard Chappelle right there. I stabbed the president, bitch. Speaker4: [01:15:30] Damn. It's all. Speaker16: [01:15:31] Right. We'll be right back after this. I need to make sure that if I see. Steven: [01:15:34] Chappelle standing stabbed somebody. [01:15:37] Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum. When I'm with you, I'm with you. And one. Speaker16: [01:15:50] Good rancher. Speaker7: [01:15:52] What happened here, Francis? Was this you? Speaker5: [01:15:57] You little stinker? What did you do last night? Oh, you don't want to tell me. Oh, that's okay, honey. You just. We'll just get it fixed up. Speaker16: [01:16:20] Bad rancher. This is it. 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Speaker3: [01:19:25] With tours. Speaker4: [01:19:25] With the Shovelers. Speaker3: [01:19:27] Why are you doing commercials? Speaker16: [01:19:29] Because I wouldn't take me at Lowe's. Speaker3: [01:19:31] Very curious about what happened during what is essentially those 57 minutes. And I'm curious to see what what did the judge do with respect to the protective order or potential gag order? Did he sort of lay out you. Speaker14: [01:19:47] Already mentioned the good. Steven: [01:19:47] Ranchers. I did. All right. Sorry. They probably want me to do it. Yeah. Good. Good. Ranchers.com because they don't even have our website set up good ranchers.com/crowder I guess they do You get $20 off at checkout We're going to be designing I think my own custom box for you guys by the way we are because it's really cool I don't eat chicken breasts. Speaker2: [01:20:02] Yeah but they have great chickens. Stephen Why? Why, why would you not eat chicken? Speaker16: [01:20:06] It's a meat for weak men. Speaker2: [01:20:08] You got to have chicken every once in a while. Speaker4: [01:20:10] No, it's a meat for queers. Steven: [01:20:11] Who curl and. Speaker16: [01:20:12] Squat. Wrong. Speaker4: [01:20:12] They have. No. It's a meat for dykes. Steven: [01:20:16] They careful. They might hear you at MSNBC. True. Speaker2: [01:20:19] They have the same special. You get a pound and a half of free bacon for each month for a subscription. Yeah. Right now. So for the year, pound and a half a free bacon. Steven: [01:20:28] There you go. People at CNN heard the word pound. All right, let's I guess. Speaker2: [01:20:32] I'm still gay. I am not. Speaker4: [01:20:34] Did you hear this guy Gag order. Get very excited. Speaker2: [01:20:38] I knew one of you was going to get. Speaker4: [01:20:40] I know. Speaker16: [01:20:41] All right. Let's see what they're. Steven: [01:20:42] Saying in MSN. Let's go see if we can go back to CNN. The have the charges been released yet? Speaker16: [01:20:45] That's his lawyer. Speaker4: [01:20:46] On skates about to say. Speaker2: [01:20:48] That's a protective detail. Like that's like somebody going up by JFK right before the bird scooter. Well, who the hell is running sweeper in the back? Speaker4: [01:20:58] Oh, my God. That was. Speaker2: [01:21:00] That's amazing. Speaker4: [01:21:01] It's like the cameraman wanted that type of skateboard. Hey, get a shot of that. Oh, that's awesome. Speaker3: [01:21:08] It's the kind of thing that you would a. Speaker4: [01:21:09] Skateboard or a Vespa. I couldn't even. Speaker2: [01:21:10] That's a little scooter. Speaker4: [01:21:11] Scooter? Yes. Very macho. Why did he get run over? Good thing he get stabbed on a New Yorker scooter. Steven: [01:21:16] Next thing going to be they're going to be passed by a flock of cyclists, somebody's. Speaker20: [01:21:19] Name. Speaker14: [01:21:20] In a negative. Speaker4: [01:21:21] Way. Oh, I used to go over that bridge. Speaker20: [01:21:23] Is usually followed. You don't miss it, Do. Speaker4: [01:21:24] You be followed? I don't know you, sir. Steven: [01:21:26] So glad to be. When I lived in the Eastern seaboard. What are they saying? Speaker2: [01:21:29] They're just trying to follow the. Speaker20: [01:21:30] Motorcade or venturing into. Speaker3: [01:21:33] Threats. So you asked for the actual charges themselves. So Trump faces 34 counts of falsifying business records. Steven: [01:21:38] And let's have someone print them out and. Speaker12: [01:21:40] Bring them to us. Speaker3: [01:21:41] For hush money payments or to women. Speaker12: [01:21:43] Let's have someone. Steven: [01:21:43] Print them out and bring them to us. Yeah, let's get all these charges so we can go through them and then we can have research, mission control, help put some stuff in the let's get the print out. Speaker4: [01:21:51] She started to say something about threats. Steven: [01:21:53] Oh, really? Yeah. Let's hear what she has to say. Speaker20: [01:21:55] To speak to his supporters. The country, you could say, at 815 Eastern tonight. It's what they're calling a prime time address. Unclear how it will be broadcast. So since he is no longer. Steven: [01:22:07] It's what they're calling a prime time, is it prime. Speaker16: [01:22:10] Time for television? Speaker4: [01:22:11] I'm not kidding. I'm not joking. I thought she said crime time. Speaker16: [01:22:13] Did she say crime time? Speaker4: [01:22:14] I swear to God. Speaker2: [01:22:15] I could just say something with this I. Is he doing it on truth or. I think he's doing it on Rumble. Steven: [01:22:20] Is he doing it on Rumble? I think he's doing it. Do we know where Donald Trump's speech is. Speaker2: [01:22:23] Going to be? Is on Rumble? Because I think that was an intentional snub. Yeah, because basically we don't know how he's going to be broadcasting this, even though it was in the press release. Right. Because he's no longer the president of the United States, you see. Steven: [01:22:34] Which because I don't want that even right now, this second on a show that is death, we are beating CNN and concurrent. Speaker2: [01:22:40] Viewers. Oh, we are. Yes, indeed. And by the way, the official charges, that was just kind of a pre summary. The official charges have not been dropped yet. That was hoodie saying jumped the gun a little. He got excited. My word, that was not quite the full list of charges. I'm trying to. Steven: [01:22:54] Think if there's anything else that I even need to address here. Is there something that I missed? Speaker16: [01:22:57] Is there something that I missed? Steven: [01:22:58] There's really not a whole lot to get into. Speaker2: [01:23:00] Today. Stephen Truth Social. Steven: [01:23:01] Posts. You want me to read the truth social post only. Speaker2: [01:23:03] Because it's Trump voice and it's hilarious. Yes. You skimmed over that a minute ago and then, hey, you know, what we should do is we should talk about Cohen for just a second, because that's the linchpin to all of this. So. Cohen we've got him. I think there's some stuff there, but I want you to read the we have. Steven: [01:23:15] Him on the line from prison. Speaker16: [01:23:16] No. Speaker2: [01:23:17] He's out of prison. Oh, he did get out, unfortunately. Missed opportunity, if you know what I mean. Steven: [01:23:22] Which one is which one is Trump? Which one is which one is the Trump I'm trying to see? Speaker2: [01:23:26] It's the Bragg where he should he should do he should indict himself. Steven: [01:23:31] Was this on April 3rd? There's there's so many to read toward. Speaker2: [01:23:35] The end of Mr. Bragg here. Steven: [01:23:37] The one where the one at 12:59. Speaker16: [01:23:38] P.m.. Steven: [01:23:40] Is this where he says, wow. Speaker4: [01:23:41] No, I'm saying. Mr. Bragg. Speaker2: [01:23:42] It's just a it's a quote for you to read. It's not one. Steven: [01:23:45] I was thinking of. Mr.. Speaker16: [01:23:46] French Yeah, Big, big fat guy, right? Steven: [01:23:49] Yes. I don't know why that popped in my head. Speaker4: [01:23:50] The guy with a perpetual hangover. Yes, exactly. Speaker16: [01:23:53] That's also the. Steven: [01:23:54] Msnbc anchors. Speaker4: [01:23:55] Family affair. Steven: [01:23:56] What was it? What was Mr. French on family affair? Speaker4: [01:23:59] Is that what it was like? The butler, The butler, the fat butler, the guy who played the dad always had like a perpetual hangover. He's like, yeah, buffet. Yeah. I go to the park. Speaker16: [01:24:07] That was back when. Speaker4: [01:24:07] Yes. Yeah. Yes. Bill Keith, William Keith. Speaker2: [01:24:10] No, I said, Geez, but if I got. Steven: [01:24:13] You a memory trigger for him because he just. Speaker4: [01:24:15] That was weird. Speaker16: [01:24:16] He completely misheard it. That was like. That was weird. Correct. Steven: [01:24:20] All right. Is this where you're saying. Speaker16: [01:24:21] The one where he said Biden and his people? No. So this is. Speaker2: [01:24:23] Under we have fast fact for for Alvin Bragg. He committed a felony himself under all about Bragg the DA right there. Steven: [01:24:30] There are so many it's. Speaker2: [01:24:32] Not a timeline one it doesn't have a time or a date or anything. So there's so there's so many things. When we prepare for shows like this, you never know where they're going to come from on stuff like this. Oh, okay. Speaker16: [01:24:41] Okay. This one, the one under where Trump addresses. Steven: [01:24:43] Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. Speaker4: [01:24:44] He's in a daze. I call in sick on my show. This is. Speaker16: [01:24:46] Where. Steven: [01:24:48] He opens it up with. He opens it up with his. I'm sorry. I just. His his, his. His true socially. I was out with. Speaker16: [01:24:55] Wow. Speaker18: [01:24:57] Wow. Right, folks. Wow. Sometimes all you can say is, wow, there's nothing else to say. You say wow. I say no. Wow. District Attorney Bragg, if that is his real name, just illegally leaked the various points and complete information on the pathetic indictment against me. I know the reporter. And so unfortunately, does he. Speaker2: [01:25:24] Correct pronunciation or punctuation? Speaker16: [01:25:26] He's there for that. He follows up with like. Steven: [01:25:28] If this, then. So the conclusion is. Speaker18: [01:25:32] This means that he must be immediately indicted, folks, Immediately. Not tomorrow, not at 2:00, not 4:00. Right. Immediately. Frankly. Now, if he wants to clean up his reputation and it's a tall order, folks. That's what other people say. I would never say that. But other people say, can I clean it up? I don't know. He will do the honorable thing. Speaker16: [01:26:02] And as district attorney. Speaker18: [01:26:05] Indict himself, indict himself, folks, he will go down in judicial history and. Speaker16: [01:26:12] His trumping wife and his Trump hating wife will be, I'm sure. Speaker18: [01:26:19] Very proud of him, but doesn't even make sense. Steven: [01:26:23] It doesn't even make sense. Speaker16: [01:26:26] That's the fun part, though. Speaker4: [01:26:30] Well, you got to give the guy a break. He's a little under a little stress. Yeah, that's. Speaker2: [01:26:33] True. Gosh. Steven: [01:26:34] The thing is, he would never admit it. He'd be like, Are you feeling a little stressed there, President Trump? Never. Speaker18: [01:26:39] Why would I be stressed? I'm cool as a pickle. Speaker4: [01:26:41] He he runs towards the fire there. You got to admit. Speaker16: [01:26:44] No, absolutely. Speaker4: [01:26:45] Yeah, he part of him. You got to admit who he's loving. The whole world is watching. Speaker16: [01:26:50] I don't know if he's loving it, but he. Steven: [01:26:51] Does have you know, it's Donald Trump. That's what's great about him. Speaker16: [01:26:53] He has a bit of a screw loose. It keeps everyone on their toes. Speaker4: [01:26:54] Yes. Yeah. But what he dealt with in the four years in office, the stress and I mean and he wants to come back for more. I'm like. Speaker16: [01:27:03] Yeah, well he's very. Steven: [01:27:04] Driven by by vengeance. You can tell like that's really I don't even think he wants to be president. He just wants to spite. This is a spite run. Like I wouldn't be surprised if he were to do it. Pull out all the stops to win. And that is his acceptance speech. He's like, all right. Speaker18: [01:27:19] I retire. That's it. I'm done. I just wanted to prove I could. But screw all of you by and leave. Speaker4: [01:27:25] I think he's pissed about The Apprentice being canceled. Yes. Speaker2: [01:27:27] Oh, yeah. Speaker4: [01:27:28] And Arnold, it's still. It's not Adam. He's like, I'll be on camera every fucking day. Yeah. Speaker18: [01:27:33] They replaced me with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Known drug abuser. Abuser. Banged the maid. Ugliest woman in the history of mankind. Speaker2: [01:27:45] Unlike all my lawyers. Speaker16: [01:27:47] The craziest thing, though, is when Arnold slept with the maid. And, like she had her son running around, he'd come by. Steven: [01:27:52] It looks exactly like Arnold. You're wondering how long it took before Shriver was like. Speaker16: [01:27:55] Uh, Arnold? Speaker4: [01:27:57] Yeah, exactly your. Speaker16: [01:27:59] Same cat tooth and. Steven: [01:28:00] Isat peak. Speaker2: [01:28:02] All right. So, look, I wanted to bring up Cohen because that's kind of the linchpin of this case. A lot of people think that Cohen went to jail for the same kind of issues that Trump is basically facing right now, although it was much, much, much deeper. And the reason this matters is because Michael Cohen is the former attorney of Donald Trump. He was a part of his organization a number of ways for a long period of time, 15, 20 years, something like that. He basically went to jail for a number of other things. It wasn't just for being a part of like the campaign finance issue with hush money thing that they're claiming that Trump did. Right. He actually lied to Congress. He hid $4 million in income. So that's tax evasion right there. Right. And he made false statements in order to receive $500,000 for a home loan, false statements on an application where you swear that you're not lying. Sounds a lot like Hunter Biden with his gun app. I was going to say, it sounds. Steven: [01:28:50] Like half of Congress. Speaker2: [01:28:51] Well, and half of Congress as well. Steven: [01:28:53] Yeah. When they check no on the pedophile. But he is. Speaker2: [01:28:55] The linchpin because basically what they're going to have to do is prove that Donald Trump either knew about or directed or made somebody illegally enter this classification on what the funds were used for. And Michael Cohen, the known liar, the person who cheated on his taxes and hid $4 million in income and then lied on this thing, is the only person really that we've seen so far. Right. That is going to have any way of saying yes, he told me. And I guarantee you I was talking to the team beforehand. There are so many people in the Trump organization. This I am I am willing to bet this never even came. Even if you even if you say Donald Trump did everything they're saying, meaning his organization, it never came across his desk. Yeah, you've got to be kidding me. Speaker4: [01:29:40] There's no way. No, I agree. Oh, I thought yeah. Steven: [01:29:43] He was he was raising you, raising your finger. Like I was like. That's a strikingly polite. Right? Exactly. Speaker4: [01:29:47] No. Speaker16: [01:29:48] I do have to raise your hand. Cut him off. I do have. Don't be intimidated by his Notre Dame credentials. Steven: [01:29:52] He has brittle bones now. Speaker16: [01:29:53] The guy was. Speaker4: [01:29:54] A tight end. He's still pretty fucking cut. Well, he does still have a 68 years old. Look at him. Speaker18: [01:29:58] If you hear his Trump hating wife tell it. Speaker16: [01:30:00] I played. He still. Speaker18: [01:30:01] Has a tight end. Speaker2: [01:30:04] Once a tight end. Speaker3: [01:30:05] Always tight. Speaker4: [01:30:07] Didn't Cohen? I guess that's why I raised my finger, didn't he? Originally, when he was working with Trump, saying, No, this is all bullshit. He denied this already. He denied it. Speaker2: [01:30:15] She's denied it. Everybody. Speaker4: [01:30:17] Trump's at least once, right? Speaker2: [01:30:19] By the way, the alleged she only apparently had sex with him one time is what she's claiming. 20 And even though. Steven: [01:30:23] She claimed four times that she. Speaker2: [01:30:25] Didn't, she's gone back and forth. I mean, come on, just give her a chance. Speaker16: [01:30:28] And by the way, her lawyer. Steven: [01:30:29] Avenatti, is guilty of extortion, just to be clear. Well, so while you're talking about these lawyers, like hold on a second. I have it on good authority that this happened. There's a whore and an extortionist who tell me that that's the case. Speaker2: [01:30:39] Let's cut to CNN. I think it's unsealed. I don't know if that's what they're reading right now, but let's sorry, MSNBC or whatever we have. Speaker16: [01:30:44] Let's go to. Steven: [01:30:44] Cnn really quickly. Let's go to CNN now. If they're actually bringing something up. No, they still have. This still is. Speaker16: [01:30:49] Msnbc scooping CNN. This is live, right? Steven: [01:30:51] This is not delayed. No, no. Speaker2: [01:30:53] They're saying it's been unsealed. Who knows if they're actually reading it yet or not? Why is Jon. Speaker16: [01:30:57] Favreau on. Steven: [01:30:57] Camera? Speaker16: [01:30:58] No, that's exactly right. Speaker3: [01:30:59] What he says. See what he says. We have the attorneys. Speaker16: [01:31:01] The attorneys are on five. Speaker4: [01:31:02] Yes, we do. Attorneys, shut up. Speaker10: [01:31:05] You're on. Steven: [01:31:07] So that's not a happy day. Speaker2: [01:31:09] That's a very sad day. Can you get a boom mic in there? Yeah. Speaker4: [01:31:12] What the hell? Speaker16: [01:31:13] Someone's using? Steven: [01:31:13] I memo on their phone. Speaker16: [01:31:17] I think that what you saw in the. Okay, I hear you guys. Um, is exactly what we can hear. Unbelievable. Look at that. Look at that racist Chinese stereotype behind them. Steven: [01:31:28] Did you guys see that? Let's see if he leans his head. It was behind him. We moved. We'll go back to it. It was at three, 340. Speaker4: [01:31:34] Probably the judge from the OJ trial. Speaker16: [01:31:35] It's not a sad day. It was the guy from big trouble in Little China. I'm not even. Steven: [01:31:38] Joking. Speaker4: [01:31:40] Yeah. Speaker2: [01:31:40] So we've got the indictment. We're printing a couple of pages or 16 pages, I guess. So we're printing it right now. So it actually. Steven: [01:31:45] We actually have the charges. I believe. So. Speaker2: [01:31:47] Trump's indictment has been unsealed. We do have that. We're going to we're going to bring Nick Rokita on in just a minute to talk about that after we get them. Okay. Steven: [01:31:54] Let's rewind it just a little bit to go to that. Just so you know, it's like I saw Bigfoot. It was it was a Did you really? Yeah. No, not Bigfoot, but. No, no, just. Just. Yeah, it was. It was only about only go back about 30 seconds, guys. To the lawyers who were there, just. Just hit. Go back 30 seconds. Yeah, You guys have it printed out. Thanks, Gingersnap. All right, well, let's get us copies for everybody here. Speaker14: [01:32:13] All I'm not him. Not him. Not him. Hold on. Speaker12: [01:32:16] Let's see. Wait for it. Wait for it. Steven: [01:32:18] This is the right period. Did you guys go back to the right. Speaker2: [01:32:21] There letting attorneys in that guy. Steven: [01:32:24] For a second? There was a guy right behind him who walked by right there. Speaker16: [01:32:30] Looked like right there. Speaker4: [01:32:31] That guy coming from Vietnam. Wow. Speaker16: [01:32:36] That guy right there. Look. Look at he walks around. Speaker4: [01:32:38] Oh, yes. The eight young Asian kid. Speaker16: [01:32:40] Yeah. He needs to go call Holly Golightly. Steven: [01:32:46] Anyway, Anyway, it was just like, you know, it was like spotting a unicorn. Speaker4: [01:32:49] In the meantime, we can make shit up and. Yeah, exactly. Wolf Blitzer just. Speaker16: [01:32:53] Had a heart attack. Yeah, well, Blitzer just scored the lowest score ever on Celebrity Jeopardy. Steven: [01:32:57] Oh, wait, that happened. Speaker16: [01:32:59] It was like a -1900. Speaker4: [01:33:00] How is he still alive? Seriously? What? Speaker16: [01:33:02] He's like the devil man. Yeah. I'm not convinced. Steven: [01:33:04] He's not a hologram at this point. Speaker2: [01:33:05] It's exactly what we thought, by the way. Steven: [01:33:07] Okay, so let's look at this. He's a hologram. Research. Guys, get us. We have. You guys want me to read this out loud? Here's. I'll read it out loud. And you guys can kind of help provide some air support with the info because I can't really know what's going on out there. Speaker4: [01:33:17] So this is going to be drier than my mother's ass. But go ahead. Speaker16: [01:33:20] Oh, geez. Apparently that's actually good. I mean, that's better, you know? Steven: [01:33:23] Did they get the audio sanitary, by the way? Speaker2: [01:33:25] What did they get the audio fixed on this? Because it's Trump's attorney speaking outside of the court. If they actually got it. Yeah. If we go back. Steven: [01:33:30] To live, did they ever actually get audio? Cnn? Speaker3: [01:33:32] It's still soft and. Speaker2: [01:33:33] Okay. All right. All right. Let's let's go over the charges. Steven: [01:33:35] Okay. So the. Speaker16: [01:33:36] Grand jury of the county of New York. Steven: [01:33:38] By this indictment accuses the defendant of the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree in violation of penal. I don't necessarily know what I want to go through the numbers. So defendant of elsewhere was intended to fraud and intent to commit another crime. So they're trying to attribute intent here. Yeah, that would mean they're looking for jail time. Unless I'm mistaken, they're. Speaker2: [01:33:55] Looking only that's the only reason they can get it to a into a. Steven: [01:33:58] Felony. Yeah. As the grand jury aforesaid by this indictment further accuses the defendant of the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree. So it's just another same thing the defendant and elsewhere with intent to defraud and intend to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise, to wit, an entry in the detailed general ledger for the Donald J. Trump revocable trust bearing voucher number, blah blah blah, kept and maintained by the Trump organization. So a third count. Speaker2: [01:34:30] The first one. The first one is Michael Cohen. There's no there's no surprise there, right? Basically, it says that a false business, a false entry in business records of an enterprise to it. An invoice from Michael Cohen dated February 14th, marked as record of the Donald J. Trump revocable trust, kept and maintained by the Trump Organization. Again, that's the Trump Organization. It's hard to lay this at the feet of one man in charge of an organization. Speaker16: [01:34:54] Do you know what your producers are doing all the time? You pay them money. You have no idea. Steven: [01:34:56] If they're spending it on. Speaker4: [01:34:57] Blow. Oh, I have one. Unbelievable. Yeah. No, he's too old to do blow flashbacks. 74 years old. Really? Yeah. He really knows the technology. Yeah. I was going to. Speaker16: [01:35:06] Say, he got the guy who knows how to do social. It's got that. Speaker4: [01:35:09] Camera. You stick your head in and you pull the. That's what he showed up with. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I said, you know how to work for 30 seconds. I said, You have a hair cameo. I made a cameo in 1946 with Fredric March. Speaker16: [01:35:25] Annette Bening was quite the dish. Steven: [01:35:28] Let's see what we have here. Speaker16: [01:35:29] Again, the Trump. Steven: [01:35:30] Organization, right, is the third count. Okay. The fourth count is the Trump Organization. Unless I'm missing something, the fifth count is, again, falsified business records. It's the. Well, Michael Cohen is the fifth count that I'm seeing right here. Speaker16: [01:35:43] The sixth count. Let me see who they're accusing. Steven: [01:35:45] It's the Trump Organization. Speaker4: [01:35:47] The you say organization like Tony Soprano. Speaker16: [01:35:49] Exactly. It is. It's the the point is, you think that Donald. Steven: [01:35:53] Trump is in charge of the day to day with business dealings. This is the truth is, when you hire people, you hire them and you trust that they're doing their job. Speaker16: [01:36:00] I have no idea what our CPA actually does. Speaker2: [01:36:03] Do you know what they say? I mean, they're basically saying every single check that was written in relationship to this, every general journal entry, by the way, if you understand anything about accounting, if you've used QuickBooks or anything like that, that's something that your accountant does. Yep. Not you. Speaker16: [01:36:18] So organization eighth count. Steven: [01:36:20] Michael Cohen. Speaker16: [01:36:21] Ninth count is general ledger organization. Okay, Let's look at the 10th count. General organization account. Steven: [01:36:30] Check. Right. General 11th count kept and maintained by the Trump Organization. Okay. 12th count. Unbelievable. All right. So unless I'm a guy, you guys call me. I'm going through all of the counts. I've only seen a person specified. Cohen And everything else is about the Trump organization means that the books weren't kept perfectly. And they're saying falsifying business. Now, maybe he did knowingly falsify business records, maybe someone did there at that business. But that still doesn't mean Donald Trump And again, this is not how this is generally conducted right now. Speaker2: [01:36:58] And you would have to prove it. Basically, what they're doing is saying marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump revocable trust, marked as a record of or general ledger for Donald J. Trump. Every single one of these things it's just every single piece of business record that you keep. That's why there's 34 counts. There should be one count. It should be thrown out. But this guy trying to make his bones and try to make this look bad, 34 counts because, oh, here's the check. Here's how you classified the check. Here's the guy that cashed the check and has a voucher for the check. That's that's what this is. Every single one of these is the same thing. There is nothing in here that's different than what we thought and what we thought was stupid. Speaker4: [01:37:38] Yes. They tried to get him on a campaign expense or something. Speaker16: [01:37:42] Or they tried to say that he paid hush. Steven: [01:37:44] Money to Stormy Daniels from campaign finance funds. Here's the truth. She said it wasn't hush money. She said that she hadn't slept with him 4 or 5 times. Then she came out and she said that she did sleep with him. He called her a lying whore. I believe she tried to sue him for defamation. The judge threw it out and said that that hooker owed him $300,000 in attorney's fees. So that's really what it was. It's a defamation suit. And by the way. Speaker16: [01:38:03] The money that was given. Steven: [01:38:04] To her wasn't hush money. That's what she said. She's now trying to claim that she was coerced, even given to her by Cohen. And it wasn't from campaign. Speaker16: [01:38:10] Funds, as I. Speaker4: [01:38:11] Understand it, Even if it is hush money, that's not illegal. No, it's not to pay somebody to shut up. Speaker16: [01:38:15] Yeah. I mean. Speaker2: [01:38:16] What they're saying is that he counted it as a business expense and he counted it instead of, you know, doing it the right way with campaign, would he. Speaker4: [01:38:22] Write off pussy? So but here's the thing. Speaker2: [01:38:24] This might not deductible. If you want to bring back Nick Rokita to talk through. Speaker16: [01:38:28] These, let's bring back Nick, Nick Rokita. Steven: [01:38:31] And guys, let me know. Speaker16: [01:38:31] I'm looking through all these. I'm at the 28th count. The only person I've seen. Steven: [01:38:35] Specified is Cohen. Speaker16: [01:38:36] So I'm thinking maybe there's going to be some grand reveal right? On the last count. Steven: [01:38:39] It's either Cohen or the general Detail Ledger or the Trump Organization. Again, guys, if you are out there, if you are in charge of any books of a company or if you own a company, this sets a precedent for you. If the books are. Speaker16: [01:38:51] Not kept perfectly now, we don't know. Steven: [01:38:53] Falsify would mean knowingly doing so with criminal intent to conceal. But we're not seeing it. We haven't seen any evidence to that effect right now. And of course, you. Speaker16: [01:39:01] Could go through. Steven: [01:39:02] Anyone's ledger. You could go through anyone's business and find numbers that aren't perfect. That's the nature of it. How many people have we known that have been audited? Of course, especially under former former President Obama. Right. With the IRS, they knowingly targeted political dissidents. And it's, oh, you know what? Your your books don't balance by $200 on a tax return. Speaker16: [01:39:20] What do you. Speaker4: [01:39:21] Think? There was 87,000 new IRS people. Speaker16: [01:39:23] Yeah. What could possibly go wrong? A bunch of. Steven: [01:39:25] Pencil necks, pushy pussies with semiautomatic handguns. Speaker4: [01:39:28] Gun handguns. Speaker16: [01:39:29] I have no problem with semiautomatic handguns. I have a problem giving them to people who don't want them. Speaker2: [01:39:33] Right. Exactly. Speaker16: [01:39:34] Namely the IRS. Steven: [01:39:36] Yeah. Speaker16: [01:39:36] So let me know if I'm missing anything here. Steven: [01:39:38] Maybe Rokita can come in and correct me. Is he. He's ready. Speaker16: [01:39:41] Okay, let's go to Rokita, because again, we're doing this live. Steven: [01:39:43] On air and I have no. Speaker16: [01:39:45] Idea if it looks like it's just. Steven: [01:39:46] Cohen and the General Trump Organization. Let's hit the stinger. Speaker16: [01:39:54] Mr. Law, thanks for being back. Steven: [01:39:56] Hopefully we hear you this time. Can you hear us? Speaker7: [01:39:58] I can. You got me? Speaker16: [01:40:00] Yes, I do. All right. Look, we need your legal expertise here. Steven: [01:40:02] My interpretation here, I'm only seeing one person specified, Michael Cohen, which we already know. Right. That's something that's already effectively been been settled. Everything else in these counts is about the General Trump organization, which doesn't mean that it is Donald Trump himself at all. They're trying to. Speaker16: [01:40:18] Lay that at his feet. Do I have that about right? Steven: [01:40:20] Give us the ins and outs here. Speaker7: [01:40:22] Yeah. Effectively what they've done is they've charged 34 counts. The conspiracy count that they that was mentioned is not mentioned in this indictment at all. There is no count, no criminal conspiracy charge in this. It's all 34 counts are falsifying business records in the first degree and all of them are related to a fraction of that, estimating roughly between 9 and 12 total payments. And what they did was they charged an individual charge for each invoice from Michael Cohen, from each check and check stub that was issued in response to the invoice. And then for each entry into the general ledger of the Trump organization. So you've got 9 to 12 total payments which results in. Speaker16: [01:41:08] Can I ask you a question here? Steven: [01:41:09] Charges, Nick for people who don't know, would those include, for example, like, you know, not only retainers, but when you're sent a, you know, a biweekly bill or a monthly bill for legal services rendered just in general? Speaker7: [01:41:20] Yeah. It looks like they were just general payments made to Michael Cohen. They're not specifically alleged to be in relation to anything. And this is one of the big problems that they have is that Cohen had testified that he paid the 130,000 and was never reimbursed. Trump made multiple payments to Cohen for less than 130,000 over a period of time. So what they have to try and prove then is that a fraction of some of these payments was to reimburse Michael Cohen for that 130,000 that was paid. Then they subsequently have to prove that Trump did this with an intent to defraud some organization, which would presumably be the Trump organization. And then they have to further prove that that he actually did it with with the requisite with the requisite intent that he had his hands in this. Since there is no conspiracy charge, you would think they would have charged conspiracy with like an accountant or a bookkeeper at the organization, but they didn't do that. Speaker2: [01:42:19] Right. How many of you think Donald Trump's out there making general ledger entries into the accounting software program? He's like, I got it in. Speaker7: [01:42:29] Let me type it. I'll type it in. Here's my ledger entry. Like, can you. Speaker18: [01:42:33] It's insane. My calculator ran out of the little. Speaker4: [01:42:35] Paper check stub in the memo, it says Horsey face. Yes, exactly. Speaker2: [01:42:41] Who I did not have sex with. Speaker7: [01:42:43] I believe it. Like I believe Trump is doing the pole dancing himself on those business write offs. It's just not a thing that's happening. Speaker16: [01:42:50] Exactly. Speaker18: [01:42:52] This is for the lying whore signed most sincerely, Trump. Speaker2: [01:43:00] You're not the one. Speaker16: [01:43:02] I mean, and again, so let me to be clear. Steven: [01:43:04] Trump organization, because what we were told for the longest time was campaign funds write campaign funds. Explain to people, does the Trump organization necessarily mean campaign funds? Speaker7: [01:43:15] No, not necessarily. I mean, Trump runs an organization, and what I'm assuming they're going to say is that Trump categorized his payments to Cohen as a business expense, which is a pretty broad categorization. I mean, if he's receiving legal services, that service the business specifically in the furtherance of its, you know, of its goals and purposes, then he has a very good claim that it's a business expense. So he categorizes it this way. What they're suggesting is that the payments to Stormy Daniels were done by Michael Cohen as a as a campaign contribution to the Trump Organization. So he makes a payment that benefits or sorry, the Trump presidential campaign. Yeah. So he makes a payment that benefits the Trump campaign. And then Trump is then paying it as a business expense through the organization rather than as that campaign contribution. That seems to be the goal they're taking here, but that the level of abstractions that you need to get to to prove this are going to be extremely difficult without some severe cooperation. And unfortunately, their main cooperator is an admitted perjurer. Speaker4: [01:44:25] Yeah, yeah. Speaker2: [01:44:28] Yeah, exactly. Steven: [01:44:29] Wait, we're talking. We're still talking about the professional horror, right? Right. Professional. Yeah. Speaker4: [01:44:32] This is another argument for a cashless society. Speaker2: [01:44:35] Yes. And the reason, by the way, that she took this payment, she said in the interview, this is I'm sorry, before she said she never had sex with Donald Trump and never received any payments of hush money. When she did say it, she said that she did it so her daughter wouldn't find out all these these terrible, terrible things. And I'm like, well, what about your porn? Yeah, exactly. Your daughter is probably going to find out about those indiscretions. Yeah, but Nick, so these these charges actually. So the underlying issue here is from 2006, these these allegations have been public long before Donald Trump ever ran for president of the United States. How did they make the claim that this only benefited his presidential candidacy? And by the way, having slept with her in 2016, I don't think it would have changed a whole lot. No, I'm not sure that people would have been like, yeah, Donald, he was supposed to lose anyway, right? So I don't understand how they're going to make this connection here. Speaker7: [01:45:22] It shoots back to Michael Cohen's statement that he made the payments on behalf or not really on behalf, but kind of in service of Donald Trump, not at his request. He consistently claimed that he did it without any prompting, that he made all of the arrangements. And so when he made those is in that 2016 time frame. And then with each of these different counts, you know, they progress from February 14th of 2017 all the way through December 5th, I think, yeah, December 5th of 2017. And that's going to be when those payments were actually issued. So when the transactions occurred are the important dates for like the statute of limitations questions and all of that. But this all stems back from during the 2016 campaign. Right before the election, Michael Cohen allegedly made this $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels to shut her up. Speaker2: [01:46:15] Unbelievable. By the way, we just have some breaking information. Nick, I don't know if you saw this, but if this does go. To trial. The judge says that it will go to trial January of 2024. That seems to coincide with. Oh, wow. Season. I mean, I don't know. The courts may be backed up quite a ways, but are. Steven: [01:46:32] These people looking to cause an actual insurrection? Yeah, they. Speaker4: [01:46:36] Are. Yeah, they are. They want the right to act violently, of course. Steven: [01:46:39] And I'm not I'm not encouraging it. Speaker16: [01:46:40] No, but what? I'm set to begin. Speaker2: [01:46:42] Yes. Speaker4: [01:46:42] Just that's. That's what they've been trying to do for the last since Trump came down. They want a violent reaction from the right. Speaker16: [01:46:49] Finishing couldn't do a. Steven: [01:46:50] Better job of it than this. Yeah, this. Speaker2: [01:46:52] Is. Yes. Speaker7: [01:46:52] And frankly, I would expect that date to actually be a little bit preemptive and I would expect delays and and push back on that date. And you can expect that to be baked into any sort of complex criminal action or even civil action that there's going to be delays requested by one party or the other. And the court is going to be primed to grant those delays. My theory on this the entire time has been that the the main goal of this is not the conviction of Donald Trump, but it's to dissuade Republican donors and voters from going into Trump's side, going into that presidential election cycle. Steven: [01:47:30] Yeah, I mean, it's really it's about eliminating a political opponent. Some people try and say that on the left, they want Donald Trump to be the nominee. They're playing 4D chess, Right? They say they want him to be the nominee. So they think this will actually galvanize Republicans to make him the nominee because he's most he's the most likely candidate to lose to Joe Biden. I don't think that's the case because there are too many ways that could go wrong. And there's only one way that it could go right. And even then, it's a gamble, right? He could I mean, the only thing that could actually work for them is if he becomes the nominee and it guarantees that they win. First off, he may not. What if DeSantis becomes the nominee? He's still going to use this. I think Ron DeSantis isn't going to this is going to galvanize everyone who's not a Joe Biden voter, period, by the way. And the more this plays out, I think they're going to see some backlash. Right. The Donald Trump vote was the screw it vote back in the day, at least he was outside of the Beltway. They felt like they had business as usual going from George W Bush to Barack Obama. Not enough of a contrast. Still spending out of control, continued war. So they said, all right, you know, let's try someone who's a little bit of an outsider, Donald Trump. Now we've been back to business as usual at that point. It'll have been four years. And people might. Speaker16: [01:48:29] Say, hey, you know what? Joe Biden's the guy saying trusting your trust, your institutions. He's expanding the FBI. He's added 80 something thousand. Steven: [01:48:35] Agents or sorry employees to. Speaker16: [01:48:36] The IRS. Steven: [01:48:37] He's expanded the CIA. Look at the Democrats in this bill with tick tock, where they want to. Speaker16: [01:48:40] Get access to my ring camera. You know. Steven: [01:48:42] What? Maybe Donald Trump's right. We shouldn't trust our institutions. Right? Speaker16: [01:48:45] Or maybe DeSantis. Steven: [01:48:46] Is right in saying that our our systems and institutions need an overhaul. I don't think. Speaker16: [01:48:51] There's any way for this to go well. Steven: [01:48:52] For them if, in. Speaker16: [01:48:53] Fact, it's something that they're doing. Steven: [01:48:55] Beyond the short sightedness of eliminate Donald Trump from the voting pool. I don't know. Is it just me? No, no, no. Speaker2: [01:49:00] I think I think it's right. And Nick, what do you think about what are the chances that this goes to trial? And let me give you one kind of caveat. Donald Trump is obviously not going to plead guilty in any way, shape or form on any in any scheme that you've hatched. On the Democrat side, him pleading guilty. This is not part of it. So given that, what do you think the chances are this actually goes to trial. Speaker7: [01:49:19] Absent his plea of guilty, the only I mean, the chance that they have is to try and attack the sufficiency of the charging document. Right. That it lacks sufficient probable cause. We'll have to see what probable cause statement there is. We'll have to see how they go ahead and lay out these charges against Trump. I mean, these are very bare allegations. But if they can if they can get a dismissal, that would be one thing. But it seems very likely that it will go to trial absent any plea deal, because we do have a grand jury indictment. Presumably they have gotten sufficient probable cause to the grand jury to bring this thing out there. The question is whether there can be some some sort of challenge to what has happened at the grand jury. And courts are remiss to overturn grand jury indictments. The idea is that the prosecutor did an ethical job. Laugh, laugh, track, please play in the background. But that the prosecutor did an ethical job, presented sufficient evidence to the jury, and they're allowed to curate that evidence. They're allowed to exclude whatever they want, include stuff that even would be inadmissible at trial to bring that probable cause standard into play. Once they get there, they get the indictment. It's pretty much a done deal and it should be going to trial. Steven: [01:50:34] Yeah, that was some people were asking how much how likely they thought it would be that this gets dismissed. So. All right. Well, that sounds like Rashida knows how this plays out. He's an expert. He's a lawyer. We're not. Hey, where's the best place for people to to find you and follow you? Nick Other. Sorry, Nick. Speaker7: [01:50:50] You can find me on Rashida Law pretty much anywhere. You know, Twitter, YouTube, Rumble is where I do my primary streaming. Yeah. I also have a locals page, Love Rumble and locals very, very much. And you can find me on other platforms too, but mainly follow me on Rumble Guys. Let's support upcoming technology. Let's support competitors that support free speech as well. Steven: [01:51:12] No, I agree. And you wouldn't be able to say half the stuff that you said today on YouTube. Or maybe you would. I have no idea. It probably would be a hard strike. Hey, we maybe. Speaker16: [01:51:19] We need we need a fleet of. Steven: [01:51:20] Lawyers. Let's. Let's keep his number. We'll talk to him afterwards. Speaker16: [01:51:22] Thank you, Mr. Ricardo. Steven: [01:51:23] We appreciate it. We must go, I guess, to hit the stinger again. Speaker16: [01:51:30] He's a he's a nice he's a he's a sharp guy. Where'd you find this guy? Steven: [01:51:33] He has a big YouTube channel. And he was The Donald. No, it was the Johnny Depp. Amber Heard trial, right? That's where he kind of came to fame. Speaker4: [01:51:41] He's got personality and charisma. He's kind of fun. I mean, yeah, I want this guy and the. Speaker16: [01:51:45] Schnoz. Speaker4: [01:51:48] Case, you know, my organization makes a payment. Speaker16: [01:51:50] I can't believe you didn't have. Steven: [01:51:51] To go to the bathroom. Speaker16: [01:51:51] What are you, a camel? Speaker4: [01:51:52] I'm very dehydrated. I drank a lot last night. Speaker16: [01:51:55] You and Robert Reich. Speaker4: [01:51:58] Let's Whitaker's. Speaker16: [01:51:59] By the way. No. Speaker4: [01:52:04] Still alive, midget. Speaker16: [01:52:06] I don't know what this is. Let's see what they're saying now on CNN. There's let's see what. Speaker4: [01:52:08] John Candy is saying up on the right hand corner. Oh. Speaker16: [01:52:11] Very big on CNN. Sold a lot of CNN. Speaker14: [01:52:14] Went into the courtroom. Speaker16: [01:52:17] Yeah, I don't you know, again, I'm on the Mar a Lago. Speaker2: [01:52:20] And J6 side of things. Speaker8: [01:52:22] The last thing that. Speaker14: [01:52:23] The New York team needed was a bunch of Chris. Speaker4: [01:52:25] Christie January. Speaker14: [01:52:26] 6th mention. Speaker4: [01:52:28] Oh, my. Jack Daniels. Speaker16: [01:52:30] This is a. Speaker14: [01:52:31] For all of the excitement, all of the hoopla. It's actually a very. Speaker8: [01:52:34] Routine court. Speaker14: [01:52:34] Appearance. They're handled consistently. Other white collar cases. Speaker8: [01:52:38] That is that him get. Speaker4: [01:52:39] On the plane one. Yeah, it. Speaker2: [01:52:40] Is. So let's see if that live down the stairs like Joe Biden. Look, I'm. Speaker4: [01:52:44] Go right up there. Speaker3: [01:52:46] Like it's. Speaker12: [01:52:46] Skipping steps. Look at that. Speaker18: [01:52:49] It's like I do two steps at a time because it works. Speaker2: [01:52:52] The glutes and I have a tight end. Speaker18: [01:52:58] I can't. Speaker16: [01:52:58] Believe this guy is doing. Steven: [01:52:59] His segment. He has to go sell shower curtain rings. Speaker12: [01:53:01] I know. Speaker14: [01:53:02] That's right. What they say in terms of inciting as somebody who represents Donald Trump on other issues, the January 6th, again, Jake. Speaker4: [01:53:10] You got to. Speaker16: [01:53:10] Drink again January 6th. God, yeah. Steven: [01:53:12] Let's watch you hold it Now. Let's see how. Speaker16: [01:53:14] Long this lasts. Speaker14: [01:53:15] Is that of concern that Donald Trump, President Trump does go on social media. I got a. Speaker4: [01:53:20] Prostate the size of a goddamn. Speaker16: [01:53:21] I guarantee you this guy does. Speaker4: [01:53:24] Peeing at the hockey game last night. So embarrassing. Who's the old guy who's been here for 31 minutes? Steven: [01:53:29] This guy probably has a prostate that's like Hindenburg. Speaker14: [01:53:31] And for New York and Georgia and trying to silence the leading contender for presidency, it would be an amazing moment. Speaker4: [01:53:36] But Jake Tapper always looks like he wants to cry. Speaker14: [01:53:38] Yeah. Steven: [01:53:39] He looks like he's smelling his own farts. Speaker4: [01:53:40] Yes. They made a run at Swalwell's right under his seat. Speaker14: [01:53:43] I don't see anything. I hope that the judge is also equal handed. Steven: [01:53:47] Turn it up a little bit. I can't really hear it that well. Speaker14: [01:53:49] Doj side. And I suspect from what I've seen in New York so far, it'll be the same that there are one sided leaks, incomplete leaks, leaks to pressure witnesses that are flying out by the dozens. So, you know, there's a lot of behavioral stuff that needs to be looked at on the prosecution side. I'm not too worried about an occasional truth or an occasional moment where a man who has every right to be frustrated says something publicly. The. So this is a Trump attorney. Steven: [01:54:15] Yes. Which surprises me because he is the definition of low energy. How did he make it through. Speaker4: [01:54:19] The cut he makes? Jeb Bush look like Flavor Flav. Yeah. Christ. Speaker14: [01:54:25] Does that concern you? I couldn't think. Speaker4: [01:54:26] Of a way. Speaker14: [01:54:29] Not particularly. I mean, look, you know, pretty funny. The Ninth Circuit today added on to her tab of what she owes. I know I was going to bring that up for breaching the nondisclosure agreement. But look, at the end of the day, Stormy Daniels looks like almost a credible witness. You know, Michael Cohen has is a convicted perjurer, disbarred lawyer guy with an axe to grind. And, you know, anybody that's even watched Law and Order once would love the opportunity to cross-examine that guy. So, you know, that's pretty funny. That rules me out and say, look, it's not just him. It's documents. Steven: [01:54:59] I've never seen an episode. I saw one. Speaker16: [01:55:01] It's propaganda to. Steven: [01:55:02] Save. He saves them. And the Christian's a serial killer. Speaker4: [01:55:05] Propaganda, pure and simple. Speaker14: [01:55:06] Grand jury. Again, Dick Wolf, They're going to. That's again, that's when that shows you it's politically motivated. No reasonable prosecutor would go to bat with Michael Cohen as your star witness. But Alvin Bragg, look at Jake Tapper's face. Steven: [01:55:18] This is his face right now. When the Trump attorney says no reason he's going like this. Speaker4: [01:55:22] Yep, that's fine. He was a fox. Speaker16: [01:55:25] Rebecca James. Ted Nelson Riley. He's going. Speaker4: [01:55:29] Oh, yeah. Speaker18: [01:55:31] You don't say Trump attorney. Speaker4: [01:55:34] Like Match Game 77. Speaker14: [01:55:36] It does appear that Michael Cohen was telling the truth. He was. Speaker16: [01:55:40] On ABC. Speaker4: [01:55:40] Jake Tapper I say he did a little time at Fox. Did he do. Steven: [01:55:43] Time at Fox? Speaker16: [01:55:43] He must have been. Speaker4: [01:55:44] I swear to God. Speaker2: [01:55:45] Let me let me hear his response real quick. Speaker14: [01:55:46] Agreements. We can demonize it and say hush, hush money and cash money. Talk about how salacious it is. You know, if that was illegal, Congress would be in a lot of trouble. Right. You've got an entire fund set up for congressional NDAs based on harassment. So it's not illegal to have it. Nobody's disputing whether there is a nondisclosure agreement. The Ninth Circuit just found out who violated it and has to pay attorney's costs. The issue is the credit. That's right. For people who. Steven: [01:56:11] Don't know, Stormy Daniels owes Donald Trump $300,000 or the organization in legal fees. Speaker14: [01:56:15] In more. And I'll bring that. Speaker2: [01:56:17] Up in just one second. Oh, really? Steven: [01:56:18] Was she that bad a lay? Speaker4: [01:56:20] How many ones? That is, folks. Speaker2: [01:56:24] A lot of quarters. Speaker14: [01:56:25] Significant it would be some of them heated the federal case against him. You know, they had an interest in trying to make it into a federal prosecution. Nobody would ever accuse the US attorney's office in Manhattan of being afraid of going after Donald Trump. They set it up in his plea with with a federal election violation as one of the charges, with all the other stuff that that Cohen had been involved in. And then he failed as a cooperator and they couldn't even give him the five K departure. They couldn't even give him the credit. I do appreciate. Steven: [01:56:51] That. Tapper is giving him some time, though, to speak now. That's that's good. This is the new CNN. Yeah, well, watch. I can have someone else come on and say, yeah. Speaker16: [01:56:57] Everything that guy said is bullshit. Yeah. Speaker4: [01:57:00] It'll be Don Lemon addressed to somebody else. Speaker16: [01:57:02] Good enough for me. You heard it here first, folks. Speaker2: [01:57:05] That fellow's gay. So he must be telling exactly. Steven: [01:57:08] What you're going to bring out some trans and clown makeup. Speaker4: [01:57:10] At Home Depot. Yes. Speaker2: [01:57:13] This and this may be a good time to bring it up. So Donald Trump. Speaker16: [01:57:15] Grabbed me by the not pussy. Speaker2: [01:57:16] So the Trump the Trump family actually tweeted out. So breaking the Ninth Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56. Come on. Do they need the $0.56 in attorney's fees from Stormy Daniels order just released? This is in addition to roughly 500,000 she already owes him. That just happened. She's going to be on the. Steven: [01:57:35] Pole with one of those changemakers who released. Speaker4: [01:57:37] That, Gerald. Speaker12: [01:57:38] So the ninth Circuit. Speaker2: [01:57:40] The Ninth Circuit Court just. Speaker4: [01:57:41] Released. Now, explain. Speaker16: [01:57:42] To me why that's an addition. Speaker4: [01:57:44] This is no conflict. I mean, what's. Speaker16: [01:57:46] The this is another. So she was owed. No, I. Speaker4: [01:57:48] Know. But why are they releasing it today? Speaker2: [01:57:50] Well, I mean, timing is interesting because that's what I'm asking. I released it and that's when Donald Trump was apparently supposed to be going before the judge. It moved to 215 Eastern Time. But this is the same Ninth Circuit. I do believe you guys, correct me if I'm wrong, that. Oh, no, never mind. I was going to say that just declined to prosecute. That was the Southern district. Sorry, same, same rough area. But anyway, they just added to it. So what, $621,000 in change that she has to pay him for violating the NDA that she signed? Wow, That's that's tough for a hooker who's past menopause. Speaker12: [01:58:18] Yeah, exactly. Speaker4: [01:58:20] It's 15 years at the VIP club in Atlanta. Exactly. Nuts. Speaker2: [01:58:23] Well, and so Donald Trump jr actually he added on to that saying lol glad she's out there saying her t shirt sales are booming. She'll be able to afford to pay Trump a little. Speaker4: [01:58:33] Bit more a daddy in him than he ever. Man. Speaker16: [01:58:36] She better hope there are a lot of old. Steven: [01:58:38] Men out there with hot flash fetishes. Speaker16: [01:58:39] Yeah. Speaker2: [01:58:40] Exactly. But that goes to what this lawyer just said. So this is a Trump lawyer. And he basically said, look, if this was a problem, if NDAs and being able to pay people because sometimes you have to do this because Congress would be in trouble, because they've got an entire fund set up for Congress. Speaker16: [01:58:53] By the way, every single. Steven: [01:58:54] Person who comes here to this studio signs an NDA. Speaker2: [01:58:57] Right? We don't have a fund set up for anybody. Speaker16: [01:58:59] No, we don't have a fund set up. But the point is. Steven: [01:59:00] This is one thing that people they always love to talk about that online. I mean, Tim Pool talked about that, right? Because he's out in the middle of no, it's an NDA. So you don't disclose where people are, right? It's an NDA so that you don't take any materials and leave, especially I mean any film production house, any studio. Right. This is very common. And certainly I've got to imagine that every single person, if you're having a private conversation there in Congress or anyone who's there on Capitol Hill, there are often NDAs. So what they're trying to say is if there's an NDA, then that must mean there's something to hide. No, it doesn't. Well, if there's money, that must mean there's something to hide. It's about legal fees. It would. It would cost Donald Trump more to fight slander, to fight defamation and legal fees than it is to pay a cheap whore to go away. Speaker2: [01:59:36] Right. Or it would cost him more in legal fees and hurt his reputation more in 34 counts in when the DA decides to bring a case in 2023. Donald Trump right now is basically just trying to protect himself, NDAs protect himself from somebody coming after him when it's politically expedient. When did Stormy Daniels come knocking on the door for money When he was running for president the first time? Right. This happened in 2006, Right. When was this? I'm going to release the book. I'm going to put the story out there. I'm going to do a tell. All right. Speaker4: [02:00:07] Just a coincidence. Gerald, come on. By the way, hold on. Speaker2: [02:00:09] What is Donald Trump doing right now? He's running for office. This is obvious what's going on. Like, nobody buys this except for the people trying to put on the charade. By the way, we are monitoring for Bragg to come out and make his statement, the press conference right now, I think that's the bottom lower third. Speaker4: [02:00:25] They can't get him out of Popeyes. Speaker2: [02:00:27] If we if we cover that. Yeah. Speaker12: [02:00:31] Right. God. Speaker4: [02:00:34] He loves hush puppies. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Speaker12: [02:00:37] Yes, sir. Speaker2: [02:00:40] Is it lunch hour in New York? Speaker4: [02:00:41] Can you picture that? They yanked him. I think it. Speaker16: [02:00:42] Is. Comes out with McRib sauce. Speaker4: [02:00:47] 12 piece bucket. Oh, my gosh. Speaker2: [02:00:50] I'd be curious to see what a bunch. Speaker4: [02:00:51] Of pigeons. Speaker2: [02:00:52] Literally. Speaker12: [02:00:55] Stevens. Speaker2: [02:00:55] Dying over there. Speaker3: [02:00:57] Just trying to move. Speaker12: [02:00:58] Past it. Speaker4: [02:01:01] This is worth the plane right out here. Speaker12: [02:01:03] Yeah. Steven: [02:01:04] Oh, thank God. We're on Rumble. Speaker2: [02:01:06] Okay, I want to. I want to see you guys. Give me a favour. Give me a favor and give me an overlay of. I think there was a tweet by Rumble saying that Donald Trump is going to be broadcasting on their platform tonight. If that's out there, we get it for me. Or just hold on. It's a chick with. Steven: [02:01:19] Forearms. Let's see what she has to say. Speaker13: [02:01:22] And when those three defense attorneys came out, including the newest member of the team, Todd Blanch, who spoke first today, she's wearing. Steven: [02:01:28] A highlighter. Speaker13: [02:01:29] Sheet, came out. Yes, speaking. Speaker4: [02:01:31] Look at that. Speaker13: [02:01:32] Excuse me, Jake. Obviously, we're sitting right outside the courthouse. It's a little bit Dylan. Speaker3: [02:01:35] Mulvaney's final form. Todd. Speaker13: [02:01:37] He was arguing boilerplate language of. Steven: [02:01:39] A Bud Light can with her hairy forearms. Speaker13: [02:01:41] On it. But the conversation quickly turned and the questions to those attorneys, to the former president's social media post about this case, which we know they spent time on with the judge there in the room behind closed doors, because Trump has posted in recent days about the judge himself claiming in all caps letters that he hates him, criticizing him, of course. Speaker12: [02:02:00] Oh, that's such a strong word. I know. Yeah. In all caps. Steven: [02:02:02] Letters, such a strong. Speaker16: [02:02:03] Word for a man. Steven: [02:02:04] Who is trying to send him to prison wrongfully. Unbelievable. What is this, an earnest film? Of course he hates him. Speaker12: [02:02:08] Exactly. We actually have. Speaker2: [02:02:10] This, So bring that up really quickly. The overlay of of of rumble they put out four hours ago and the intrepid reporters at CNN or MSNBC, that's where we were, MSNBC at the time couldn't bother to check. Steven: [02:02:22] I don't know how he's going to be streaming this or broadcasting it. It's going to be on Rumble later tonight. We won't be streaming this go watch tonight. So please go and watch it. And we'll probably are We're probably doing a show tomorrow morning, I guess. Probably a recap. Often we don't do it after a long mega live stream, though. I don't know if this qualifies, so. Speaker12: [02:02:39] We'll probably be doing a show tomorrow is. Speaker2: [02:02:42] Seconds, probably. Steven: [02:02:43] Away days, seconds away from speaking. So use the hashtag Crowder election stream or sorry Crowder live stream And of course we have the drinking game it is two weeks free of mug club. That's the only thing that allows us to do this And of course people like, Hey, maybe we can bring on Rokita a lot of mug club at some point. He just he's a busy man. He actually practices law. Speaker2: [02:02:57] I've been I've been talking. Steven: [02:02:58] To the guy I know but it's like at Fox News they always say this person's a lawyer. No, no. They went to law school. They clerked for like six months, and then they decided to sit on the Fox News like chair. Speaker4: [02:03:07] That is neat. Speaker16: [02:03:08] Yeah. The greatest. Oh, here he is. Here he is. Steven: [02:03:12] You're right. Yeah, he just turn it up. Speaker16: [02:03:13] Okay. Caitlin. Oh, no. He saw his shadow. Steven: [02:03:15] That means there's more winter. Speaker10: [02:03:17] The Manhattan district. Speaker14: [02:03:18] Attorney, Alvin Bragg. Let's listen in. Speaker4: [02:03:20] I have Type three Supreme Court. Steven: [02:03:22] Indictment returned by a manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, 3 to 1 under New York state law. Three, it is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. Wrong. That is exactly what this case is about. 34 false statements made to cover up other crimes. These are felony crimes in New York State, no matter who not felony crimes in New York State, actual violent felonies. But go normalize. Speaker14: [02:04:01] Serious criminal conduct? I don't think so. Steven: [02:04:05] The defendant repeatedly made false statements on New York business records. He also caused others to make false statements. The defendant claimed that he was paying Michael Cohen for legal services performed in 2017. This simply was not true. Speaker4: [02:04:26] Wrong. And it was a false statement. Steven: [02:04:28] That the defendant made month after month in 2017, April, May, June and so on. I mean, I know they don't want to tip their hand, but at this point, when you're talking about us being at the precipice of potentially some kind of civil unrest, can't you give something that makes it sound legitimate? You're just saying this is not true. He lied about this and we've not seen any proof. And by the way, according to your own words, not that long ago when you came into office, prosecutors withdrew because they didn't think it was harsh enough because he said the evidence was not that compelling. What changed? That's the issue. Where's the flash of genius moment? You said there's really not a whole lot there. He didn't decide to drop it. That's a fake. That's a that's a fake story, right? That's a deep fake. But he did say there's not a whole lot there. Speaker16: [02:05:08] Where's the flash of genius moment? Where's the. Steven: [02:05:10] Turning moment? Speaker16: [02:05:10] What made you change your mind? Isn't the public entitled. Steven: [02:05:13] To at least that at this point when you're indicting a sitting president or former. Speaker16: [02:05:17] President, depending on how you look at it? I say. Steven: [02:05:19] Sitting president. Speaker16: [02:05:19] Okay, let's go. Well, come. Speaker4: [02:05:20] On. Steve Mooney from Fox News. Speaker16: [02:05:22] Yeah, exactly. Speaker4: [02:05:23] No Fox are all great questions. Speaker16: [02:05:25] They're hoping for. Steven: [02:05:26] Desantis American Media, Inc.. Speaker12: [02:05:28] Look at this guy. Steven: [02:05:29] Mr. Cohen and others agreed in 2015 to a catch and kill scheme. That is a scheme to buy and suppress negative information to help Mr. Trump's chance. Speaker16: [02:05:44] Of winning the election. The catch and kill Scheme. Speaker18: [02:05:45] He wants you to think I'm playing the most dangerous game. Speaker16: [02:05:48] Donald Trump. Speaker18: [02:05:48] And it's a book. It's not real. It's not a real story. Speaker12: [02:05:53] About Mr. Trump. Speaker4: [02:05:56] It was my dating philosophy. Steven: [02:05:58] Set up shell companies and they made yet more false statements. Speaker18: [02:06:02] This guy's dating app is Grindr. It's just a hoagie. He shows it to women, hopes they get in his van. Steven: [02:06:08] One of the three. Speaker12: [02:06:09] People that they paid. Steven: [02:06:11] To keep quiet was a woman named Stormy Daniels. Speaker12: [02:06:14] I'm sorry, less than two weeks before the presidential election. Michael Cohen. Steven: [02:06:19] At $130,000 to Stormy Daniels. Michael Cohen did. Okay. Give us the connection. Speaker12: [02:06:24] That payment was to hide damaging information from the voting public. Speaker4: [02:06:28] It's legal. Speaker12: [02:06:30] It's legal. Participants scheme was illegal. Speaker4: [02:06:32] No, it wasn't. Stupid. Speaker12: [02:06:33] Scheme violated New York election law. Steven: [02:06:35] Michael Cohen's scheme is what you're saying to. Speaker12: [02:06:37] Conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means. The $130,000 wire payment exceeded the federal campaign contribution cap. Oh. Steven: [02:06:49] So they're trying to say the 130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels is effectively, even if it didn't come from campaign finance funds, they're trying to say that that effectively is like running Facebook ads or Twitter ads, that that was to promote the campaign. Right. So to keep something silent, that's that's considered promotional, right. A promotional fee. Wow. Speaker4: [02:07:07] That's pretty flimsy. I should know. Speaker12: [02:07:09] Stormy Daniels Sort of stormy. So to make that true statement would have been to omit a crime. So instead, Mr. Trump said that he was paying Mr. Cohen for fictitious legal services in 2017 to cover up actual crime committed the prior year. And in order to get Michael Cohen his money back, they planned one last false statement. In order to complete the scheme, they plan to mischaracterize the repayments to Mr. Cohen as income to the New York State tax authorities. The conduct I just described. Okay. Steven: [02:07:51] Grimace. You mean they paid legal fees. Speaker12: [02:07:53] Was charged by the grand jury? Is felony criminal conduct in New York State? Speaker2: [02:07:58] Oh, my gosh. Speaker12: [02:07:59] True and accurate. Business records are important everywhere, really, to be sure. Speaker4: [02:08:05] Isn't it unbelievable? Speaker16: [02:08:07] You go down to Wall. Speaker2: [02:08:08] Street, buddy, you'll have a. Speaker4: [02:08:10] Field day. Unfreaking real lord. Speaker16: [02:08:12] And I don't hate Wall, for crying out loud. Your governor had nipple barbells and was grabbing. Steven: [02:08:16] Women's nipples, and you didn't know for four years. Speaker4: [02:08:18] Exactly the call. Speaker2: [02:08:19] That concerned about. Speaker4: [02:08:20] This. Can you imagine? Oh, it's almost embarrassing if the whatever fine business records this, I'm ready to quit law. We said it's a bread. Speaker12: [02:08:30] And butter of our white collar work. And fraud presents itself in all different forms. Here in Manhattan, we have charged. How did you get your. Speaker16: [02:08:39] You're looking at one. Yeah. Speaker4: [02:08:40] Yeah. Speaker12: [02:08:41] Fat violated federal bank secrecy. Speaker4: [02:08:44] Sorry. That was Joe Pesci. That was my impression. Speaker16: [02:08:48] You're cracking. Speaker4: [02:08:48] Up. Yeah. Fat fuck. Speaker12: [02:08:50] You brought this charge for those who committed tax violations. At its core, Timothy Geithner, this case today. He did it in your district. Yeah. Steven: [02:09:01] Hey, how about Nancy Pelosi, who, by the way, she increased her net worth by $40 million while she was in office. Speaker16: [02:09:07] What's the salary? What's the salary? It's like. Steven: [02:09:09] 285. Speaker16: [02:09:10] 285. 11 five. Yeah, exactly. Speaker2: [02:09:12] Speaker But yeah, exactly. Steven: [02:09:14] $40 Million. That outpaces the average investment portfolio by like 40 times. Speaker4: [02:09:19] She's just very good. Steven: [02:09:20] You should do that. Speaker2: [02:09:20] For like 235 years to. Speaker16: [02:09:22] Amass. She's a keen eye for investing. I mean, you. Steven: [02:09:24] Know, it's riddled with cataracts, but. Speaker12: [02:09:28] No amount of power changes that enduring American principle. Nasty guy. I'll take it along with anybody. Steven: [02:09:35] Oh, he'll take some questions. Okay. Fantastic. See our. Speaker4: [02:09:37] Major traders. Speaker9: [02:09:40] So you have a list. Speaker4: [02:09:42] Rancher. A blue cheese? [02:09:43] Yeah. Trick question. Both. Speaker4: [02:09:52] That's a long call back person. Speaker20: [02:09:54] Person. Speaker2: [02:10:00] You got a crowd mic? Yeah. Speaker12: [02:10:01] Conducted a thorough and rigorous investigation. We're going to do that. The Manhattan District Attorney's office. I've been doing this for 24 years, and I'm no stranger to rigorous, complex investigations. I bring cases when they're ready. Having now conducted a rigorous, thorough investigation, the case was ready to be brought and it was brought. Speaker4: [02:10:25] How do you feel about white people? Steven: [02:10:29] Great question. I can take him or leave him. I mostly leave him. Speaker4: [02:10:33] Exactly right. Speaker8: [02:10:36] And it was done to conceal another crime. Speaker5: [02:10:38] But indictment does not specifically say what those crimes were. We are assuming perhaps that they might be election related. I'm wondering if you can specify what laws were also broken. Speaker12: [02:10:51] Right. So let me let me say, as an initial matter, the indictment doesn't specify that because the law does not so require in my remarks, I mentioned a couple of laws which I will highlight again. Now grab that bit from CNN. Steven: [02:11:03] She's surfed perfectly. Speaker12: [02:11:04] Election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means. I further indicated. Steven: [02:11:13] So let me get this straight. If someone is knowingly and by the way, by her own words. Right. She committed perjury by her own words, lying and defaming you, slandering you, I always get confused. Which one is the written word? Which one is utterance? One of them is slander. One of them is defamation. That's the differentiation. If someone is committing that right, is defaming you, is slandering you. Right. So they come out, they can torpedo your campaign lest you speak out effectively or spend money, for example. Does that mean that everyone who spends money to make a smear campaign go away? Does that mean that they are committing some kind of illegal activity? Think about that for a second, because that's something that, by the way, does happen within campaigns. And in this case, it was a personal matter. So, in other words, this is now telling people what this tells people. Again, think of the precedent that it says. It says if you want to go out, if there's any candidate out there who you do not like, who you would like to destroy, you can make shit up and by the time we get to the fact that it's. Speaker16: [02:12:02] Slander, by the time. Steven: [02:12:03] We get to the fact that it's defamation, you now know you have carte blanche because simply even paying you to go away or. Speaker16: [02:12:09] Paying the legal fees to fight you. Steven: [02:12:10] And make you go. Speaker16: [02:12:11] Away could be prosecuted as unlawful promotion of a campaign. Do you have any idea how many bottom. Steven: [02:12:17] Dwellers are going to come. Speaker16: [02:12:18] Out of the woodwork right now. Speaker4: [02:12:20] Or is it a New York State thing? Speaker16: [02:12:21] Yeah, it could be. Yeah. New York. Speaker4: [02:12:22] State. Just New York State. I don't know. Speaker12: [02:12:25] I've been doing this for 24 years. Could have fooled. Steven: [02:12:27] Us. Speaker12: [02:12:28] Don't bring cases prior to a an investigation. Now, having done so, the case has been brought. Steven: [02:12:34] Oh by the way, he said felony like nine times. You guys have to drink. Speaker14: [02:12:37] Nbc News. Speaker2: [02:12:38] Your predecessor took a hard look at. Speaker14: [02:12:39] This case and decided not to charge it. Federal prosecutors took a hard look at this case and decided not to charge it. Good question. Good question. Speaker3: [02:12:45] You have new evidence that. Speaker14: [02:12:47] Led you to decide to charge. That was my question earlier. Steven: [02:12:49] Good question. Speaker3: [02:12:49] Why now? Speaker12: [02:12:51] Why? No. As I just mentioned, we have available to the office additional evidence that was not in the officer's possession prior to my time here. And as to your part of your question about the federal, we have a distinct and strong, I would say profound independent interest in New York State. This is the business capital of the world. We regularly, regularly, regularly issuing statements. Speaker4: [02:13:16] Yeah, he's nervous. Speaker12: [02:13:17] The the bedrock, in fact the basis because. Steven: [02:13:19] Blood sugar went down to that of a normal person. Speaker12: [02:13:23] Business marketplace honey. Speaker4: [02:13:24] Mustard is sticky. Steven: [02:13:25] Someone's donut powder hooked up to him like a bane mask. Speaker12: [02:13:28] New York State business records. Speaker4: [02:13:33] You still go to bed with an IV of heavy cream in your forearm? Yeah. Speaker3: [02:13:37] Pat is characterized. Speaker4: [02:13:41] He's a good question. Speaker5: [02:13:43] Payments and. Speaker16: [02:13:44] Horrible answers. Yes. Speaker5: [02:13:46] President Trump was one of the participants who mischaracterized the payments for tax purposes. Speaker12: [02:13:51] I'm not going to go beyond the plain language statement of facts, which I think speaks for itself. Speaker16: [02:13:56] There are no facts. Steven: [02:13:57] He just said there were new facts. They speak for themselves. Which facts? Speaker2: [02:14:01] Said that his office didn't have those facts when he came in or right into office. And now he does. And so therefore. Right. Why? Steven: [02:14:07] And they speak for themselves. But I can't talk about it. Well, but. Speaker2: [02:14:10] They speak often for themselves. You'll have to wait. Speaker12: [02:14:13] The charge requires, as I as I specified, criminal conduct that was concealed, one of the concealed crimes, we allege is New York state election law. I sort of went through in our statement of facts. I think many of you have in front of you, you know, goes through things including, you know, text messages, emails, contemporaneous phone records, multiple witnesses. All of that will be, as you saw in the fall, borne out in a public courtroom in downtown. Notice he's. Speaker16: [02:14:46] Not saying that. Steven: [02:14:47] Donald Trump paid to make the truth go away under the guise of a lie. Right. He's just saying that Donald Trump's lawyer paid this professional prostitute. I don't care what you say. Sex work is not real work. Okay? You're not. A union. Maybe they are. I have no idea. In Nevada, I don't know what they do with the Bunny ranch. The point is, he's not saying that they lied, that she was telling the truth and they paid to make the truth go away. He is saying any money to make someone who, by the way, could be guilty and according to the courts of slander, of defamation, is a violation of campaign finance. That's what he is saying right now. If he had proof that Stormy Daniels was telling the truth, do you doubt for a second, for crying out loud, they leaked. They leaked what was happening. Right. The DA leaked this before, which could have been a felony. You think he wouldn't have leaked that? You think he wouldn't mention it? Right now, this guy lives for the camera. Speaker2: [02:15:31] Yeah, He's got nothing. So here's. Here's so this. Let me just set this up. Right. So he's saying that this information would have negatively impacted Trump's campaign. And by silencing it, he's depriving voters of what they needed to know. Right. So that's that's the thing. So basically, he that whores are liars. He's telling you that in 2006 when Donald Trump slept with this, that people would have taken that as a slight against Donald Trump and that would have hurt his campaign. Are you serious? I don't think ten days before that coming out, him being like, oh, jeez, Donald. Okay. I didn't know. Now, maybe I don't agree with you having an affair, but really? Steven: [02:16:10] Yeah, but he's not even saying that he did. He's not even saying that he did have an affair. No, no, no. Speaker2: [02:16:14] But he's saying he's paying her not to say something that would have hurt his campaign. Yeah. Speaker16: [02:16:18] I know. That's another argument. That's another good argument that it would have hurt his campaign. Yeah. I mean, the Billy Bush tape only helped him because every guy was laughing their ass. Steven: [02:16:25] Off until every wife came in and ruined it for him. Every. Speaker2: [02:16:30] Every. I just. I feel like that's such a high bar. You can't make the case that Donald Trump would have been hurt by that. He wasn't hurt by anything. Steven: [02:16:37] No, no. Let's see what this broad has to say with the extensions. Speaker17: [02:16:40] That's not a broad. Includes at least two New York State. Steven: [02:16:44] Panelists with professional. Speaker16: [02:16:45] Wrestler hair. Speaker17: [02:16:46] Federal crime. Because one of the criticisms that has been. Speaker4: [02:16:49] A line of the marble. Speaker17: [02:16:50] Man that has been given to the DA's office and the theory here is how could you possibly use a federal election crime since this was a federal election to bump up a New York state crime? Now, it should be noted that that has been done before. Under Cy Vance and Robert Morgenthau, there were several falsifying business record cases that were brought under theories such as this, one of which was a big bank case that involved a lot of money in she and the bank pled guilty. So it was never former chief assistant. It's certainly a theory that's not novel that's been relied on notice. The key word is assistant Alvin Bragg. No, it isn't. It's Friedman. Make very clear. What? That. Speaker16: [02:17:29] Yeah. The DA did the work. Steven: [02:17:30] You got him coffees. Speaker17: [02:17:31] It relies on New York State Crimes to kind of take that out of the conversation, take that out of the motion practice because that is clearly was anticipated to be one of the big you can see. Steven: [02:17:44] Look this is this is entirely conjecture. Okay. Warning everything else that we provided to you. All the references are available with credit.com, by the way, hit the rumble button if you can, if you're so inclined to please especially that will actually help Donald Trump's speech later draft in behind it because it'll increase the interactivity to it. This is entirely conjecture. You can tell on someone's face when they don't really buy what they're saying. Yeah, these people don't know what to say because look at that schnoz on that guy. Speaker16: [02:18:06] Don't shoot him in profile. Wow. Steven: [02:18:08] They they really. Speaker16: [02:18:09] They're not buying it. Steven: [02:18:11] You can tell when they're galvanized. You can tell when they're passionate about something. And this may be something that someone may have done at some point or other such nature. Speaker2: [02:18:20] But look at this, by the way. So Trump and Michael Cohen worked out repayment deal in Oval Office. Do you have the tapes. Steven: [02:18:27] By the way? If he was in Oval Office, how would it have hurt his campaign? Speaker2: [02:18:30] Right. No, exactly. Well, they worked out the repayment deal in February of 2017 because that's when the payments started. Right. Do you have the recordings? Right, Because that would have been really clear, really easy to say, Hey, we actually you know, we have Michael Cohen. We have Donald Trump on tape talking about this in the Oval Office. They record that stuff. Now, look, later on, if you come out with that, I'm going to be like, well, okay, fine. You got me on that one. I don't think that you have that, though. Right. But CNN right now wants everybody to think that. Yes, because since Richard Nixon well, even before that, we know about Oval Office recordings for one reason or another, right? Absolutely. Exactly. So it's one of those cases we heard muffled screams in one of those cases for Bill Clinton. But, you know, nonetheless, they were they were having some fun. Apparently. Speaker16: [02:19:09] That's what they want you is that Richard Nixon Motorboating an intern? They call me a crook. Speaker4: [02:19:15] Let me just say this about your tits. Yeah, they're perfect. I've seen a lot of tits. I am not a fan. The American people have to know if their president likes tits. Right? Speaker16: [02:19:33] And Gerald Ford is just like, do I pardon this? Speaker2: [02:19:35] I don't. I don't. I don't really know what to do. Oh, sure. Speaker3: [02:19:41] No. Speaker16: [02:19:44] I mean, by the way, the Gerald Ford Museum in. Steven: [02:19:46] Grand Rapids, I don't know if you've ever been there. Did Gerald. Speaker16: [02:19:48] They have the Gerald Ford Museum in Grand Rapids. Speaker4: [02:19:49] In Grand Rapids to do comedy? Speaker16: [02:19:51] Yeah, they used to have Dr. Grins. Steven: [02:19:52] It's closed down now, by the way. Permanently. Oh, no. Speaker4: [02:19:54] Yeah, I know. Is a blow to my future. Steven: [02:19:57] The Gerald Ford Museum looks really wide and. It's shaped like a pizza slice. And at the end of it, there's an Elvis exhibit. Speaker16: [02:20:04] What's up? They have nothing. There is Gerald Ford. Like, I don't know. Here's Elvis guitar. Steven: [02:20:08] When he passed out. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:20:10] Maybe they'll like that, too. Speaker3: [02:20:11] That's hilarious. It's from the same period. Speaker4: [02:20:14] Oh, my God. What a slap in the face. Speaker16: [02:20:15] Someone in someone from Grand Rapids. There's someone out. Steven: [02:20:18] There can confirm. Find me a picture of the Gerald Ford. Speaker16: [02:20:20] Museum in aerial. Steven: [02:20:21] Shot. You know, like Donald. Donald Trump's Bronco. Right. Speaker16: [02:20:24] All right. Speaker4: [02:20:24] Oh, that's fun. The plane did take off. The Italian Vince McMahon is speaking. Speaker16: [02:20:30] He's going to come out walking. Speaker2: [02:20:32] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. The DA had the balls to say This cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct. Speaker16: [02:20:38] Really? Here's the thing. Yeah, really? Speaker4: [02:20:40] In the state with the city, with people getting raped every three minutes. Speaker2: [02:20:43] Catch and release people and they decriminalize all these things. Are you serious? Speaker16: [02:20:46] Yeah. He was saying bail reform. He was saying that while the Chinese reporter got punched. Speaker2: [02:20:51] We have the overlay. Bring that up real quick. Steven: [02:20:53] Of the Gerald Ford. Speaker16: [02:20:54] Museum right now. Steven: [02:20:55] The Gerald Ford Museum. Yeah, bring it up there really quickly just so that we can. Can you bring up. Speaker16: [02:20:58] The overlay there, Jerry? Look at that. There we go. I know some people are going to think Illuminati. No, it's they ran out of ideas. Steven: [02:21:04] Okay. Speaker4: [02:21:04] Oh, yeah. That's what the fuck? Speaker16: [02:21:06] This big wide on a couple of nachos? No, there's nothing in there. Like he played. Steven: [02:21:11] Football at this high school. Huh? Speaker4: [02:21:13] Huh? Is that leather helmet? Speaker16: [02:21:15] Gerald Ford president? Yeah. Speaker4: [02:21:16] For him. Yeah, he did play at Michigan, but mkultra, all that shit. Oh, yeah, he's a part of that, too. Oh, yeah, Yeah. So I heard. Speaker16: [02:21:23] All right. Speaker2: [02:21:24] Let's people to have. Speaker16: [02:21:24] Fun. Let's go to. Steven: [02:21:25] Professional eyebrow Threader. Speaker4: [02:21:27] You got. Speaker10: [02:21:27] A problem with sitting there waiting. Speaker20: [02:21:28] About eight months to have the second hearing on it. And by the way, it's going to fall two months before the Republican primary. If you're Donald Trump, you're going to say it's a witch hunt. It's political, it's a partisan day. I've also seen some of these folks. What if it's true fact that, you know, Alvin Bragg saying nobody is above the law, We prosecute even these. Steven: [02:21:44] Above the law drink. Speaker16: [02:21:45] Gosh, we're too good for these drinking games. I'll tell you. Steven: [02:21:48] Thank God it's Yuengling. Speaker20: [02:21:49] It's basically water to misdemeanors, things like marijuana. You know what? China trespassing. That's basically water, too. It's 4% for Trump to push back. Yeah, well, it's less than Budweiser, but I'm not sure in my at least doesn't have. Steven: [02:21:59] A trainee on the can. Speaker20: [02:22:00] This is better than I expected it to be. Speaker10: [02:22:02] David Urban Yeah. Speaker4: [02:22:03] Listen, I mean, I've listened to Ellie and others. Speaker14: [02:22:05] Say that if this was all that was. Speaker19: [02:22:06] There. Speaker4: [02:22:07] This is going to be a really weak case. What? And I. Speaker16: [02:22:10] Like him on The Shield. Speaker4: [02:22:11] Stood out there and said if this defendant's name was not Donald Trump, son of a bitch, this wouldn't be. Speaker14: [02:22:16] Charged. And I have to believe that to be true. I've heard if this is. Speaker4: [02:22:19] It, this is going to. Speaker16: [02:22:20] Be he looks like if Kurt Angle had the mumps, the talking. Speaker5: [02:22:22] Penis, Donald. Speaker4: [02:22:23] Trump's tonight. Speaker7: [02:22:24] He's going to wave this in the air and Mar a Lago and say. Speaker14: [02:22:27] They're after me. This is a witch hunt. Speaker4: [02:22:28] And as his nephew. Speaker10: [02:22:31] Look, I think that he did no good by presenting this as a Benjamin Button, Bob Newhart. Everything else was defending democracy in Georgia, the coup. And then we have this weird porn star stuff. Everybody says, What the heck is this? And he says, No, this was about corrupting our democracy. It was about corrupting our electoral crap. I think in that regard, he helped himself by the Communist. A few hours, former President Trump indicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records adviser Ben Jones. Steven: [02:23:00] Yeah, sometimes, right. Speaker4: [02:23:00] Every once in a while. Every once in a while, I'll be honest by accident. Speaker16: [02:23:04] Oh, I don't know if they have anything to bring. Steven: [02:23:06] Up for us to fact check or if we want to bring up some some tweets or something from people. But here's the thing that's pretty. And if you've heard me say this before, but I think this is probably the most clear crystallization that I can think of. And I've said this for a long time, for years, what they want to do on the left and you're seeing this with SDR is they want to turn law abiding citizens into criminals, for example, through gun control laws. Right. Well, you have a pistol grip on that. Now, that's illegal. Or maybe you have to turn it in or they want you. Right now they're talking about these. The ATF is talking about the wrong forms and FFL, Right. This is something that probably would affect people who Mr. Guns and Gear knows people who have guns shipped to them because they do videos or they do reviews. Right. So they want to turn law abiding citizens into criminals. Okay. And then they want to turn criminals into a voting base. That's why you have catch and release. That's why you have no cash bail there in New York. People who, by the way, can be committing violent. Speaker16: [02:23:55] Crimes, they go out there and they. Steven: [02:23:57] Shout from the rooftops like they're the Ricola guy. Stop Asian hate when you have the guy from big trouble in little Chinatown, the Emerald Eyes guy, when he's getting socked in the face because someone's playing the knockout game next to Rick Moranis and they let those guys out. They let them free. It's like Arkham Asylum. Speaker16: [02:24:11] But right now, they. Steven: [02:24:12] Want they want you to know that if you step out of line politically, they're going. And I say this, Trump stepping up their argument. Just to be clear, a lot of people. Speaker16: [02:24:20] Think. Steven: [02:24:20] This is about paying hush money to make an affair go away. That was something that was thrown out. She owes hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't know if we did the calculation. You said 600,000 or $600,000. So I knew about the 300,000 and the 100 and whatever, 46,000. There must be another payment that I'm not 60 that just broke today. 160. It just broke today. But that would be 467,000. Unless there was another one. Speaker2: [02:24:40] It was around 500. Okay. Steven: [02:24:41] So she owes that because the record shows that she. Right. She lied. She committed either perjury or defamed and slandered. The point is, you can't come out 4 or 5 times and say we didn't have an affair. Speaker16: [02:24:51] And then say, no, wait a second, he's running for president. Steven: [02:24:52] Actually, we did have an affair. She lost. The case was thrown out. She has to pay his legal fees. So their case and again, you notice you're not hearing. Speaker16: [02:25:00] Anyone say Donald. Steven: [02:25:01] Trump had an affair, which, by the way, wouldn't be illegal. But they're not even saying that. They're not even saying he paid hush money to make to make a story that was legitimate go away. They're saying one of his lawyers who was charging him paid this woman to stop torpedoing his campaign and that promoted his campaign. Right. That acts as promotional material, which would be. Speaker16: [02:25:22] Illegal because the public has a. Steven: [02:25:23] Right to know about a lying horse saying that he has a mushroom tip. So we're going to consider this criminal activity. It is such a stretch. While violent felons are set free in the street and you wonder why the population of New York State is shrinking. And Los Angeles, think about that for a second. They want to turn law abiding citizens into criminals and they want to turn criminals into a large voting block. Speaker4: [02:25:46] Disarm you. Yep. Speaker16: [02:25:47] Yep. Yeah, that's it. Hey, it's a. Steven: [02:25:48] It's a perfect, perfect confluence. Speaker4: [02:25:51] And we haven't seen this in history before. Speaker16: [02:25:53] I would have to I. Steven: [02:25:54] Would have to think. Speaker4: [02:25:56] For ten. Speaker16: [02:25:56] Seconds what we're seeing it right now. Well, yes. Yeah. Steven: [02:25:59] What? Chicago, New York. California. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:26:03] Well, and the claims that they're making and obviously we've talked about other people being above the law, but let's just take it on its face value. Speaker16: [02:26:08] Like you said, above the law. Speaker2: [02:26:09] Drink fudge. Sorry, that was my fault. I mean, felonies and other stuff. So. And January 6th especially. So just keep saying buzzwords. Speaker4: [02:26:18] My other two guys and it's chip my other tooth. Speaker16: [02:26:20] Are you in Stormy. Speaker2: [02:26:22] So I think the thing to consider is that, look, we don't want to get into a place where we start prosecuting the opposition ever. You never want to do that. And so a lot of people are asking the question, not never. Well, no, no, no, just never. Steven: [02:26:38] Because they are opposition, Right? Exactly. Speaker2: [02:26:39] Never. Just because they're the opposition. Yeah. Steven: [02:26:41] I mean, if you know, if he was showering with his daughter when she was having her sweet 16, I think that's. Speaker2: [02:26:45] An or committing gun violations, you know, obviously that's fine. Right. But what we're doing right now, though, with Donald Trump is we're bringing even if you believe this, it's the like it's the weakest case they have against Donald Trump right now that they're trying to say like. Speaker16: [02:26:59] Well, they've tried every other case. Speaker2: [02:27:00] Probably better right than this. And this guy comes out there and just the balls, the chutzpah that you have to have to go and stand on that stage and say this is about protecting and making sure that we're not normalizing crime and making sure that people pay it is they don't make people pay. Speaker16: [02:27:15] And by the. Steven: [02:27:15] Way, this is the exact same thing as January. Let's think about. So this right now, we just went through that. Okay. So it helped his campaign. Let's go to January 6th. So what they want you to believe is January 6th, by the way, which was littered with feds who were actually committing crimes. Most people were invited in, as we just saw with the QAnon shaman. They were invited and given a tour of the Capitol where people were held in jail. Right. They were held in jail without bail, unlike in New York State, held in jail without bail for effectively trespassing charges. Right. Speaker16: [02:27:39] They were held. They didn't have due process. Steven: [02:27:41] So that happened right January 6th. And all of that happened because think about what the impeachment was, because Donald Trump, even though he said go and make your voices heard peacefully. No, no, no. Speaker2: [02:27:51] Do it right. Speaker18: [02:27:52] Go and make your voices heard peacefully, peacefully, patriotically and peacefully. And then he said, you have to fight like hell. Steven: [02:28:00] That's what caused nine divided by 11 times to, you know, nine over 11. To 9/11 harder January 6th as they know it. That was that impeachment. And now it's. Well, the fact that his lawyer might have paid Stormy Daniels money, known or unbeknownst to Donald Trump. Speaker16: [02:28:14] Made a story go away. Steven: [02:28:15] Which may or may not be true. You know, the court record shows that it's not true. And therefore, that's a violation of campaign finance laws because the public has a right to know. Speaker16: [02:28:24] So fight like hell is the reason for the. Steven: [02:28:26] Impeachment that led to a violent insurrection, which largely was not violent and wasn't an insurrection. Speaker4: [02:28:31] Nobody was charged with insurrection. Speaker16: [02:28:33] And you're exactly right. Steven: [02:28:34] And then I don't even think. Were there sedition charges? I don't know. Did they charge one person with sedition? I don't know. I don't. Speaker16: [02:28:40] Know that they ever. Speaker4: [02:28:41] Somebody broke a vase and Nancy Pelosi's fucking office. Oh, what a guy. Steven: [02:28:47] And then with this, it's Oh, so that helped his campaign because this lady who went out and was lying and defaming January 6th fight like. Speaker16: [02:28:53] Hell with. Steven: [02:28:54] This. It's money went to a lying whore to stop her from being a lying whore. And by the way, she owes him $600,000 for being a lying whore. Are you starting to get the picture yet? Speaker4: [02:29:03] Yeah. Steven: [02:29:04] Donald Trump may be a dick. Speaker16: [02:29:05] Okay, you may believe that. Steven: [02:29:07] But this is. Speaker2: [02:29:09] Dangerous. I'll even go one step further. I'll say that maybe Michael Cohen took it upon himself. Like he has said before, I don't know which. I don't know which. Hold on. Which. Michael Cohen, do I believe the one that said that Donald Trump never instructed him to do anything and never paid him any money and took the money out of his own funds? Yeah. Or the guy who went his nuts were in the ringer basically said, I know you have all these other charges against me. Maybe I can give you some dirt on Donald Trump. And instead of serving, I think four years, he served maybe 18 months or something like that or something close to that in jail. I don't know. Do I believe that, Michael Cohen or not? But even if he did that, even if he went and did that, Donald Trump didn't necessarily tell him to surrounding the Trump organization might have somebody else in the campaign might have. But you haven't proved proven to me that Donald Trump has his fingerprints all over this, Right? Speaker4: [02:30:00] This is the RICO act. Yeah, exactly. If this is the RICO act for politicians and they're. Speaker16: [02:30:05] Using a bunch. Speaker4: [02:30:05] Of money, yeah, we're going down the line. Speaker16: [02:30:07] They're using a bunch of disgruntled employees. Steven: [02:30:08] You have Michael Cohen, and now you have John Bolton, who, by the way, should be sweeping up between the Bullwinkle cartoons. But for some reason, he has a contributorship at CNN. This was a guy who was fired from Donald Trump or did he resign? I don't know. The point is he didn't last very long. And now he's here saying Donald Trump is terrible. By the way. Speaker2: [02:30:22] That's a really bad last name. David Pecker. The National Enquirer. David Pecker. Yeah. He didn't get to a better publication. Yeah. Speaker4: [02:30:32] He didn't get tortured in high school. Speaker16: [02:30:34] Didn't have to make up a fake name. Steven: [02:30:36] They just used his name. Speaker2: [02:30:36] Well, but this is evidence, right? So Trump invited National Enquirer's David Pecker to inauguration. White House. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. Speaker16: [02:30:46] Zuckerberg has been to the White House, for crying out loud. He's been to think about yeah. Jen Psaki telling. Steven: [02:30:51] Spotify what to do and thanking Susan Wojcicki. Speaker4: [02:30:55] Guys I'm trying to hear what Mark Twain saying. Yes. Speaker5: [02:30:57] He doesn't want his wife to find out about it. Speaker14: [02:30:59] That's what John Edwards claimed. Speaker10: [02:31:00] Yeah. Speaker5: [02:31:01] And I think to the average juror, that's. Speaker16: [02:31:03] John Edwards, the man who was banging a pregnant woman while his. Steven: [02:31:06] Wife was in the hospital with cancer, that guy, let's take. Speaker16: [02:31:08] His word for it. Poor Michael or Michael Avenatti. Steven: [02:31:10] Who tried to literally extort Pepsi so a kid could get a Harrier jet. Speaker20: [02:31:14] After the election, perhaps even not paying until a true story so that they didn't have to pay it. Yeah, if Trump if Trump won. So I'm just to say, the idea that it was just to hide it from Melania is kind of addressed in the document. Right? Speaker5: [02:31:29] I'm not saying that's the fact. I'm just saying the defense can make a case reasonable doubt that puts reasonable doubt in this. This is in a criminal case. They often say you have to prove 95%, not a civil case, where you only have to prove 51%. Speaker8: [02:31:43] And I just want. Speaker17: [02:31:43] To say that looks like you. Steven: [02:31:44] Lost 95% of your jawline. Speaker4: [02:31:46] Yeah, Really? Speaker17: [02:31:47] We don't have any of this. Speaker4: [02:31:48] We'll find it next to Mitch McConnell. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:31:50] He's basically saying and this guy is no lover of Donald Trump, by the way. No. Right. So he's basically saying that this is going to be pretty easy to argue. Right. And it absolutely. Steven: [02:31:58] Will. But that's the point. They know it. It's not about it being right or wrong or being even factually correct. It's about trying to it's about trying to Tonya Harding And when he's running for the office. Speaker4: [02:32:07] And I understand that I read seriously, you can run for president whether you're an under indictment. Right. Or you're in actually in jail. They said you can run from jail. Yeah. Speaker16: [02:32:19] Is that true? I don't know if you can run from jail. That's what I have a lawyer. Speaker4: [02:32:21] I saw a lawyer say it on the Food Network. Yeah. No. Speaker16: [02:32:25] That was Guy Fieri was. You can run from jail. Speaker4: [02:32:28] Wow. No, I can't remember. It was on. It was Turley or somebody that I usually respect. So you can. Speaker16: [02:32:34] I have no idea. Let's just made the shit up. It could have. I have no idea. Steven: [02:32:37] That's what CNN does. Speaker16: [02:32:39] Hey, look, We found Waldo's tie. Speaker5: [02:32:42] Who was Donald Trump's greatest political supporter? Alvin Bragg. Well, you said. Speaker17: [02:32:46] On Sunday, I believe that what we are going to see in Manhattan today and maybe over the next few months is rocket fuel for Trump's campaign. Speaker8: [02:32:55] Yeah, it is. Speaker5: [02:32:55] Right. Especially if he gets acquitted or. But now. Speaker8: [02:32:58] That you've seen this, do you. Speaker5: [02:32:59] I feel this complaint, this criminal complaint could easily be. Dismissed on a motion to dismiss. I think it's that thin. Speaker14: [02:33:07] And Carrie, is it not is it not possible that. Yeah, but I think. Steven: [02:33:10] He's wrong because Rokita made a good case. He made a good point that they really are not inclined to go against a grand jury. The idea of a. Speaker2: [02:33:15] Dismissal, they can once they get to trial. Right. They can have a motion to dismiss. Steven: [02:33:19] Right. Once they get there. But it's unlikely to take place before, obviously, the hearing before the date in question, I guess. But yeah. Speaker14: [02:33:26] Yeah, he hasn't really been very specific about it, that the underlying crime that that he was trying to hide by committing this crime, this fraud were crimes committed by David Pecker, who signed a non-prosecution agreement and. Speaker4: [02:33:38] Got bastard. I'm sorry, is it not Mr.. Speaker2: [02:33:41] Pecker, please. Speaker4: [02:33:41] Yeah. Speaker10: [02:33:42] Anymore. For anybody who's a skeptic of woodpeckers, is it not possible that. Speaker14: [02:33:47] That was the crime that he was covering up? Speaker17: [02:33:50] Well, if that's their theory of the case, that's not what they've laid out in the documents that we've seen. Speaker3: [02:33:57] Cups, Mom. Speaker20: [02:33:58] Yeah, that's not. Speaker17: [02:33:59] Really what the DA just said in his press. Speaker16: [02:34:02] He has the eyes. Steven: [02:34:03] Of a Siberian husky. Speaker17: [02:34:04] Is he mentioned the federal campaign, the campaign for presidency. And then he also made reference to. Speaker8: [02:34:11] New York state. Speaker17: [02:34:12] Election law. And so that's what he talked about, his press conference. Now, normally and you'll you'll hear me and my colleagues on the legal side talk about this a lot. Usually prosecutors speak through their indictments. They speak through their charging documents. And so the fact that he was describing in his press conference, potential violations of law that are not in the charging documents raises a lot of questions that I do think the defense attorneys will have some legitimate basis upon which to make their motions to dismiss a million. Speaker20: [02:34:41] Holes in this. So interesting to me is is related to what Ambassador Bolton is raising. And Carrie, you've talked about this, too, is that the federal election violation was never charged here. So the question of whether it was even chargeable or prosecutable wasn't even ever answered. And I wonder, how does that get resolved on the federal level? And then there's probably a separate what are you smirking about there, Jill? Speaker2: [02:35:05] What's funny is it's funny to me because you've answered your own question. Yes, exactly. Like you've just said. Well, they never actually decided to bring the charge. And so, shit, I thought. Speaker16: [02:35:16] I thought you were laughing at her. Steven: [02:35:18] Helena Bonham Shoulder pads. Speaker2: [02:35:20] Just like. Speaker3: [02:35:21] Who is she anyway? Speaker2: [02:35:22] These people aren't paid so much money to sit up there and be idiots. Speaker16: [02:35:26] Yeah, they're not even buying it. Steven: [02:35:27] They all know. But no one. No one here wants to. They don't want to go out on the shield here claiming that this is legitimate. They know that it would look bad for them. And like you said, look, maybe there is something in there that's legitimate that we don't know about right now, but they certainly haven't presented it. And the way they're trying to throw people off the scent, the tricks that they're playing, just like they did with January 6th. Right. Not releasing the evidence and claiming that seven people were dead and then it was five and then it was just Babbitt who they don't talk about. It makes me think that all of it is a lie. And you can tell that they know the. Speaker4: [02:35:54] 33 other felonies that we haven't heard about. Speaker2: [02:35:57] No, it's all one felony. It's all one paper stub that is involved with this. But look, I have a really serious question. So this is from 2011. This is from E! Online Entertainment News. In 2011, they had an article about Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump. How is this new information that would have hurt his campaign? Because this information was already public that he had been accused of having an affair with Stormy Daniels in 2006. That news came out as well. In 2011, there was a story about it. I'm really curious. This isn't new information. This wasn't like a salacious detail that he had a small penis or something like that, which I guess she claimed, or that he was a bad lay. It's not going to hurt his presidential campaign. How in the world does this classify as something that would have hurt his campaign that he didn't want to come out? Keep in. Steven: [02:36:39] Mind this. This is the same network that for a week I don't know if you remember this. They said that what was the guy's name at NBC? I just forgot his name. It was the guy who didn't end up hold. No, no, no. Not Lester Holt, the guy who was a producer. Did he go to did he go to CNN? Was it Zucker? I don't know if it was Zucker where they said, remember, there was the N-word tapes from The Celebrity Apprentice. I remember they said, oh, they're them using the N-word. Yes. Which, by the way, thank God they don't have your B-roll. Speaker4: [02:37:01] I don't. You son of a bitch. I don't say that word. Speaker16: [02:37:06] No, he does not. Speaker4: [02:37:07] I don't like that word. Except it was called to by a bunch of Irish kids first. First of all, I'm kidding about not liking the word I used. Speaker16: [02:37:13] Yes, obviously. Speaker4: [02:37:16] But when I was a kid, I got called out all the time because I got. You said I'm dark now. Yes. When I was a kid and these little Irish pricks would call me Nick the N word, you know? Wow. And it didn't help my mother. Speaker16: [02:37:27] An Irish, an Irishman using. Steven: [02:37:28] A racial. Speaker16: [02:37:29] Epithet. Speaker4: [02:37:30] Well, it didn't help. My mother sent me to school, was wearing a purple suit and a fur coat. Yes, exactly. Thermos full of Ripple and a malcolm X lunchbox. Yes, but, you know. But yeah, no, of course I had white people say they've never used the N word. Right? And I go, Really? I guess you never bet ten grand on an NBA playoff game, right? Speaker16: [02:37:47] Exactly. Speaker4: [02:37:50] Lebron James misses a three pointer at the buzzer. What are you yelling at the TV? Oh, that person of color. Yes, exactly. Speaker16: [02:37:59] I'm saying speaking of shadows, I don't know how they're lighting. Steven: [02:38:02] This Christian Holmes, but. Speaker16: [02:38:04] Did you see that? I just said it was like. It was like a lunar eclipse. Steven: [02:38:07] Let's see what she's saying. Speaker16: [02:38:08] I did it again. What is that? That's a. Speaker4: [02:38:10] Boom mic. It's like. Steven: [02:38:11] A poem. What is. Speaker16: [02:38:11] She having? A nightmare. Steven: [02:38:12] Is there a shadow person right there? Speaker3: [02:38:14] They got the. Speaker9: [02:38:15] Camera, the light behind the camera. Speaker16: [02:38:17] The cameraman, the slender man. What is this? Terrible. All right, let's see it again. She's blushing. Speaker20: [02:38:22] All of his lawyers, he is on a plane with his entire political team. He has the two campaign heads, Chris LaCivita, Siouxsie Wiles. He has his closest campaign aides. That should give you an indication of where they are. Steven: [02:38:34] Anderson Cooper just said aides. Speaker10: [02:38:36] Yeah, exactly. Speaker20: [02:38:36] Make this about 20. Speaker4: [02:38:37] 2800 number goes up. Donate. Yes, he's a bug. Speaker16: [02:38:40] See him? It's an invite. Steven: [02:38:42] It's a save the date. Speaker3: [02:38:44] Mug shot that they. Speaker15: [02:38:46] Made. Speaker20: [02:38:46] They put it on a Vanderbilt. Some guy printed it on t shirts and said blasted it out to raise money off of it. Again, showing you where they are mentally around this. And right now, I have talked to two sources close to the president who say they feel pretty good. They feel like this indictment was thin and a weak case that. Steven: [02:39:04] I actually you know what? Objectively, I actually do think this is a good thing for Donald Trump. If they came out and they had something really damning. Right. That's the only thing. Yes. Like I said, when someone said, do you think that the left wants him to be the candidate? And so they're doing this because they think he'll be. No, no. This this is a really bad case scenario for them because everyone, even on CNN, I bet you on MSNBC. Speaker16: [02:39:23] They're admitting that. Steven: [02:39:23] It's paper thin. It looks political. It's very thinly veneered as being something else. And I think that even the average American who does not pay attention to politics, a lot of people, by the way, who are forced to wake up and vote for Donald Trump are going, Oh, wait, wait a second. Wait a second. They can do this to absolutely anybody. They can do it to me. And we're at an all time low. As far as trust in your institutions. Speaker16: [02:39:45] I think it's even. Steven: [02:39:46] A tough sell, by the way, for the leftists, for the Democrats to say, hey, defund the police. By the way, trust your intelligence committees, trust your intelligence institutions. Think about that for a second. Speaker16: [02:39:56] It's constantly. Steven: [02:39:57] Conflicting messages. And this right now is an argument, an argument from authority fallacy. Right. It's the idea that, oh, the people in charge and these people who are who are gathering intelligence. Right. These prosecutors, these people who are appointed, these people who are corrupt, they're doing this in your best interest. And I just don't think that not only Republicans, but the average American, the Independent, the undecided is going to buy it. I think this is going to send chills down their spine. Speaker4: [02:40:20] They'll be true if the election process in this country was legitimate, right? Speaker16: [02:40:25] Yeah. Steven: [02:40:25] Well, it's the most free and fair election of all time. Speaker4: [02:40:28] That's true. Speaker3: [02:40:29] Allegedly. Speaker20: [02:40:31] It is then. And that's going to be their message tonight. I expect to hear him be indignant after a day where he, you know, as I mentioned, predicting Donald. Steven: [02:40:38] Trump will be indignant. Thanks, Nostradamus. Speaker20: [02:40:40] Yeah, really? He's throwing a party. Speaker16: [02:40:42] I thought I thought he would be placid. Speaker20: [02:40:45] Now he's back home. He's at his club. He's surrounded by supporters. Speaker16: [02:40:47] I'm surprised he's not pissing out the airplane right now. Speaker20: [02:40:51] Came out and said that. Speaker9: [02:40:52] Chastising supporters I don't. Speaker20: [02:40:53] Support drink. However, this is a. Speaker16: [02:40:55] Hey, guys, I'll need a refill of something cold. Do you want a refill? Steven: [02:40:57] Is that getting. Sure. Temperature? Speaker4: [02:40:59] Sure. No, but. Speaker16: [02:41:00] Like. Steven: [02:41:01] Anderson Cooper's colostomy bag. Speaker4: [02:41:03] Refills all around. Exactly. This is better than watching a fucking Super Bowl. I got to be honest. Speaker16: [02:41:08] Not Yingling. Guys, give me something else. Speaker4: [02:41:09] I know it's all guys, but. Speaker16: [02:41:11] Yeah. No, you know. Steven: [02:41:11] Let's be honest. There aren't a lot of ladies at the Super Bowl unless you're paying hush money. Speaker4: [02:41:16] Throwing. Speaker10: [02:41:16] This up to the channel. Does this hurt the other cases right now being pursued? I worry. I mean, look, if this is the only pebble that gets thrown at Donald Trump, it's a very small pebble. If it's the first pebble in an avalanche of other indictments that strike more to the heart of, I think, people's core concern about Donald Trump, which is his threat to democracy. Speaker4: [02:41:40] You were doing so well. Speaker16: [02:41:41] You're doing this right now. We're still supposed to believe that. Steven: [02:41:43] Donald Trump is a threat to. Speaker16: [02:41:45] Democracy. Speaker4: [02:41:45] Fricking believable. Steven: [02:41:47] Yeah, the threat to democracy. Speaker4: [02:41:49] Imagine saying that. Then I. Speaker16: [02:41:51] Can. If I were him. Speaker10: [02:41:52] The only pebble. Speaker12: [02:41:53] Yeah. He does get paid. Speaker10: [02:41:54] Much of a pebble and a stupid. Speaker12: [02:41:55] Little Harry Potter. Speaker10: [02:41:56] Glasses. The backlash against this pebble might cow other people who might otherwise have been courageous enough to step forward. Speaker4: [02:42:03] To say two observations about Pebbles at this point. Yeah. Today. This morning we saw a geologist on the fucking step and a very unfriendly stadium, right? Tonight he's got Curly in front of a home crowd who are riled up. What do you. Speaker16: [02:42:16] Say, Mr. Urban? Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Speaker4: [02:42:18] Boop, boop, boop. Jubilant. All right, back to you. Gay Anderson classic Donald Trump. Speaker5: [02:42:23] To talk to Van's. Speaker7: [02:42:24] Point, I think it. Speaker4: [02:42:25] Does. Speaker7: [02:42:26] Injure what comes next. Speaker14: [02:42:27] Because people the American public was watching today. Speaker4: [02:42:29] People were tuned into their TVs. Everyone was watching not to You. Speaker16: [02:42:33] Know, many of you were tuned in to rumble. Steven: [02:42:35] Thank you. By the way, Hit the rumble. Speaker16: [02:42:36] This is what they got. Steven: [02:42:37] That's the shield. I always forget that guy's name. I confuse him with Hank from Breaking Bad. Speaker16: [02:42:41] I have an anti ball. Steven: [02:42:42] I have a bald prejudice. Speaker2: [02:42:43] Breaking Bad. It's the same. Steven: [02:42:44] Character. No, it's not. It's not the same actor. It's not your colorblind. Gerald, shut up. Shut up. Speaker4: [02:42:49] Not. People will tune out. Steven: [02:42:50] It's not close. You're right. It is close. They're both bald with blue eyes. Speaker9: [02:42:54] All agree. I'm going to take your word for it. I do think it may cause people to take. Did you say Jewish man? Speaker4: [02:43:00] I said a young Italian. Vince McMahon. Young Italian. Speaker16: [02:43:02] Skepticism. Speaker9: [02:43:03] He's. Learning to understand each one of these indictments stands absolutely on its own. Nothing about that will impede. Speaker8: [02:43:10] Not that there's anything. Speaker4: [02:43:11] Right with that, but. Speaker9: [02:43:12] What Fulton County, thank you very much, may do down in Georgia, what the Justice Department may do. Thank you, guys. Steven: [02:43:18] Because this drinking game is going to go along. What do I got here? Speaker9: [02:43:20] Is there more than what? All right. Thank you. Basically knew about the hush money payments and falsification of business, various mug. And the answer, by and large, is girthy. Details in here. We have a little better sense of what some of the documentary evidence is, but we don't at all. Speaker16: [02:43:35] We have no sense of it. Think about this. Imagine this is the look and this is obviously like today. We knew that it could be a risk. There could be a lot to go on. Steven: [02:43:44] Maybe there's not a whole lot. But the beauty of being able to do what we do and it's because we're we're entirely supported. Speaker16: [02:43:50] By you at Mug Club. Steven: [02:43:50] Is if there's nothing there, we don't have to make it up so we can. Speaker16: [02:43:54] This guy saying, oh, considering the evidence here that was presented, they have to lie because they know there's nothing there. Speaker4: [02:44:00] That guy's getting his political information from a glory hole on Bleecker Street. Steven: [02:44:04] No, that's. That's Anderson Cooper's foyer. Oh, yeah. Speaker20: [02:44:09] Sorry, John. Just real quick to to the many very credible investigations into the former president. I've watched the Department of Justice, as have a number of other officials. Speaker16: [02:44:17] Bleecker Street has been the gay area of New York in 30 years. Speaker4: [02:44:20] I said Bleecker. I could have went with Christopher. Speaker16: [02:44:22] Now it's Hell's Kitchen, because it was Chelsea. They moved their way up. Now it's Manhattan. Yeah. Steven: [02:44:26] Yeah. Speaker16: [02:44:28] Soon it'll be. Steven: [02:44:28] Queens. Speaker4: [02:44:30] Monkeypox was heading up Broadway. Speaker16: [02:44:32] A self-loathing homosexual terrorist cabdriver. It's an interesting. Speaker8: [02:44:36] Shift today because I've. Steven: [02:44:38] Got a pressure cooker filled with sequins. Speaker2: [02:44:41] Look, I just want to make sure that you guys understand that, you know, when it comes to brag, we can. We can understand that he's impartial. Speaker16: [02:44:47] Yes. Yes, of. Speaker2: [02:44:48] Course. But look at the overlay, if we'll bring it up here. Oh, that's Schumer brag. Okay. Speaker4: [02:44:55] Oh, my God. Speaker16: [02:44:58] It's like an evil spy versus. Steven: [02:45:00] Spy, but. Speaker16: [02:45:00] Fat. Speaker2: [02:45:00] Totally fine. Speaker8: [02:45:03] Had a larger, more complicated. Speaker16: [02:45:05] It'd be like a fat. Speaker4: [02:45:06] Guy mugging a Jew. Speaker16: [02:45:07] Look like if the yin yang. Steven: [02:45:08] Except one was way bigger than the other one, right? Speaker16: [02:45:11] Like, where's the. Where's the yang? Is this. Oh, it's that sliver over there. Speaker4: [02:45:15] Gerald, You remember the hogs? The Redskins? Yeah. Right. Great. Yeah. Brag Looks like one of those guys. Do you know what Tompkins? Yeah. Offensive lineman. They were called the Hogs in the early. Speaker2: [02:45:27] Oh, no, no. I know who you. Speaker4: [02:45:28] Yeah, yeah, the brag looks like one of them. I guarantee you. You know, he completely. Steven: [02:45:32] Because he knows that I know nothing about sports. He's like, Gerald, are you going to help me here? Speaker16: [02:45:35] Because I'm next to an idiot. And he'd be. Speaker2: [02:45:36] Right. You mean there was a black offensive lineman in the NFL? Jeez. Speaker16: [02:45:39] Well, that. Steven: [02:45:40] Narrows it down. Yeah. Speaker4: [02:45:41] Now, hold on a second. I said the hogs. I said the fucking hog. So you could narrow it down to four guys. Yeah. Do you want me to give you the year and a stool specimen white guy. Speaker2: [02:45:50] Picture, too? I mean, I would still have the same problem. Speaker4: [02:45:56] Say that again. Speaker3: [02:45:58] If. Speaker4: [02:45:59] I said it. Why would I say a white guy? Speaker16: [02:46:03] I thought you meant Schumer. Speaker4: [02:46:04] Still got mature. Speaker18: [02:46:09] Hey, there was this fast. Speaker4: [02:46:10] Jew wide receiver. Yes, he played for the Jets. This guy ran A42 40. He was related to Amy Schumer. We had a lot of money. God made a lot of money for his friends. Yes, exactly. I'm here in Dallas. Steven: [02:46:26] Yeah. When he washed it off. Speaker16: [02:46:29] All right. I mean, I don't. Steven: [02:46:30] Is there anything else that we need to. It's like you. Speaker16: [02:46:32] Don't. This is never going to end. Speaker2: [02:46:33] So what? No, I mean, we're not going to do this all the way until Trump speaks. Are we know. Steven: [02:46:37] God, I hope not. Speaker4: [02:46:39] Take a break. We'll come back. Speaker2: [02:46:40] So we'll probably cover that tomorrow. If tomorrow, I'm assuming. Tomorrow. I don't know. Steven: [02:46:44] Yeah. Are we doing it you often? We don't. After a, you know, a three hour stream, we often don't do it. You guys let us know, comment, use the hashtag live livestream. You can comment on. You can comment in the chat. Of course, if you're watching on Mudd Club or Twitter, Instagram, if you want us to do a recap tomorrow, obviously, you know, it's one of those things where people here are looking to not. But, you know. Speaker2: [02:47:01] Yes, you know, if you love us, you'll vote. Speaker16: [02:47:02] No. I mean, all of this, just so you know, all of this prep for nothing. Steven: [02:47:08] How about. Speaker4: [02:47:08] The thing? I didn't read any of it. Yes. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:47:11] It turns out You bet. Right. Speaker16: [02:47:13] We were like, I think there's probably nothing here. Steven: [02:47:15] This is paper thin. No, they're going to say, hey, you know what? Let's. Yes, no, but you had it. Don't be bashful. What is it? Speaker16: [02:47:21] Step in. Someone just open the door. Are we being. Let me get it. Are we being fatwa right now? What's happening? Steven: [02:47:26] Well, so. Speaker2: [02:47:28] Everybody wants a recap. Oh, God. Well. And so we'll be able to play you some clips from Donald Trump. Maybe we'll do a Nick. Don't leave with your face. I think they were bringing in some more. Speaker16: [02:47:40] Water, but make the only possible. Steven: [02:47:42] Target your head. Speaker2: [02:47:43] Yeah, exactly. Speaker3: [02:47:45] Exactly. Speaker4: [02:47:46] Nice job. Nice wiping a mug for you like. Oh, really? Speaker16: [02:47:51] What is Paul bearer out there? Yeah. Speaker2: [02:47:53] Oh, here they come. Some spillage when he. Steven: [02:47:55] Oh is that what happened. Speaker16: [02:47:56] A little. Speaker4: [02:47:56] Bit. Oh it was Gerald. Speaker16: [02:47:58] By the way, have you ever seen a guy who looks. Steven: [02:48:00] More like he should be in Apocalypto? Speaker4: [02:48:03] No. Oh, right there. Speaker16: [02:48:05] That was a good movie. Steven: [02:48:05] It was a good movie. But this guy should be rolling down a pyramid at the very least with a poison. Poison frog. Blow dart gun. Speaker4: [02:48:14] Here we go. It looks like she'd be being thrown off a roof, and I ran. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:48:18] Chad's blowing up, and they want a recap from us. So we'll obviously be covering Donald Trump's speech and what he says in the morning. Yeah, And we'll give you a recap of what went on today, which is, you know, not a whole lot. Everybody thought Bragg was going to come out with something that they didn't know. Right. Even said that beforehand. I was like, man, if he comes with something that's weird, like I didn't give Nick time to kind of go through it Recaida not you. Time to go through the legal kind of ramifications of what they're going to bring. And it was just plain, Jane, this is exactly what we thought the charges were going to be. And almost universally, people that like Bolton there, who has hated Trump for a few years now, was saying, oh, gosh, you're going to be able to bring a case pretty quickly. Even Vance, whatever his name, Jones. Jones was basically saying it's going to be a problem for other people because this isn't really going to stick. Right. They're really having to reach right now on CNN. And, you know, this was supposed to be their victory lap. This was supposed to be we got him right. Speaker4: [02:49:12] Somebody saw Rachel Maddow pushing over a mailbox in Manhattan after she watched. Speaker16: [02:49:17] That's because she was looking for more votes. Steven: [02:49:19] Wow. Speaker16: [02:49:20] So let me let me kind of give you. Steven: [02:49:21] Some some context here, because we're talking about that there is no new evidence like we talked about with this case, just like January 6th was fight like hell with this, that on. Speaker2: [02:49:28] Cnn. They were like, you didn't produce any new evidence. Got to be a little excited. No, there might it might have been some other stuff. Steven: [02:49:33] These are the same people who, by the way, say, oh, you know, by the way, Soros did not fund Bragg. He technically backed him with, you know, $1 million going to the PAC that gave that exact $1 million to Bragg one day after he announced it. But this is fake news. So, again, it's not about what they tell you. It's what they choose to not tell you. But let's think about this for a second. Again, you have a DA here. We're talking about Bragg, who violent felons in a state that is riddled with crime. New York right now. Right. This is again, how does it affect you, the citizens? And I've often used this analogy, actually, you know, it's the only sport where this applies. The role of a ball. Yes. The role I don't even know what pickle ball is. It's something to do with tennis. Speaker16: [02:50:09] I don't either. I have no. Steven: [02:50:09] Idea. Tennis over a trash can or something. Speaker4: [02:50:11] Playing ping pong in a men's room. I don't know if someone. Speaker16: [02:50:13] Can explain it to me, but in hockey, right. The role of the. Steven: [02:50:15] Government is like that of a hockey referee. And it's not like soccer with a hockey referee. It's to keep the pace of the game, make sure people are following the laws right and to make sure that the players are safe. You've heard me use this analogy. That means both from internal threats and with our country roles like the military, that would fall under the legitimate purview with a hockey referee if it's incidental, meaning if something happens, that's a slight penalty and it doesn't affect the play of the game, the ref keeps his whistle in his pocket. And this has been a long standing kind of rule with politics. If someone you can get on a technicality, which by the way, they don't even have, I'm actually kind of amazed that they don't even have that with Donald Trump. But it doesn't actually harm anybody. Now, keep in mind, you'd have to buy that. Speaker16: [02:50:52] What harmed the American. Steven: [02:50:53] Public is is paying Stormy Daniels to no longer lie about. Speaker16: [02:50:58] The then sitting. Steven: [02:50:59] President. You would have to believe that that is causing such irreparable harm to our democracy that the guy who lets violent felons out needs to have this tried. And here's the context is think about Hillary Clinton, right? Think about her not. Speaker16: [02:51:12] Using the appropriate servers and then. Steven: [02:51:13] Acid washing them. Who does that affect as it relates to well affects all of you because your national security is at risk. Think about Eric Swalwell with Chinese spies. Well, hang on a second. Tiktok's trying. Speaker16: [02:51:23] To spy on you, probably because Eric. Steven: [02:51:25] Swalwell is. Speaker16: [02:51:26] Booked at this point. Steven: [02:51:27] There's you know, he charges by the hour. There's no vacancy. Speaker16: [02:51:30] Let's talk about Timothy Geithner. This is a man who secretary of Treasury who. Steven: [02:51:33] Lied on his. Speaker16: [02:51:34] Taxes. Let's talk about former Vice. Steven: [02:51:36] President Joe Biden. This is a guy who stands to gain. Speaker16: [02:51:39] From. Steven: [02:51:40] Foreign governments who, by the way, have a vested interest in bringing you the greatest country that's ever existed to its knees. These are not victimless crimes. These are crimes that, by the way, with malice of forethought by design, have taken. Speaker16: [02:51:54] Into. Steven: [02:51:54] Account the harm that it will cause you. And they've deemed that to be acceptable so long as it lines their pockets. Speaker16: [02:52:00] This doesn't really help Donald Trump. Steven: [02:52:02] In. Speaker16: [02:52:03] Any way other than making a. Steven: [02:52:04] Headache go away, which admittedly and the court. Speaker16: [02:52:07] As a matter of record stated was a lie. And they are going after him with everything they have. Steven: [02:52:13] People who commit violent crimes that. Speaker16: [02:52:15] Harm you. Well, you know what? It's not fair. It's poverty. Steven: [02:52:18] The criminal justice system is flawed with Donald Trump, something that you've said over and over, the American public you don't care about, It's incidental. They're going to make an example of them. They are not looking out for you. Not only do. Speaker16: [02:52:30] They not care about. Steven: [02:52:31] You, they want you in a perpetual state of fear, which is why they love to let criminals free so that you can be reliant on. Speaker16: [02:52:38] Them. Every single action they take is about power and. Steven: [02:52:42] Never is it about the best interests of the average American. You can look at all of them. Speaker16: [02:52:45] Geithner, Biden, Hillary Clinton. Swalwell. You can go back to Anthony Weiner. Steven: [02:52:50] You can go through the list, compare it to Donald Trump. It's not even close, not to mention criminal policy. Speaker16: [02:52:57] All right. That's. I got. I got that off my chest. Feels like you've. Speaker2: [02:53:00] Been holding on to that. Speaker16: [02:53:01] Well, I'm just pissed off. Imagine living in New York right now and you're living in, you know, you're living in the projects where. Steven: [02:53:06] Some guy is just. He's not, like, knocking on your door. Speaker16: [02:53:08] Who is it? Rapist? Oh, this is going to hurt. You have to do it again. It's such a common occurrence. And you have to watch this on TV while this DA and his Kabuki theater. Steven: [02:53:16] Carl Winslow look. Speaker16: [02:53:17] Alike has to go out there. Steven: [02:53:18] And talk about the fall justice of the law. Speaker16: [02:53:21] Well, imagine being a poor black kid in New York City, by the way, who's trying to make yourself. Speaker4: [02:53:25] I was. Speaker16: [02:53:26] Yes. Well, corny Irish kids. Yeah. Speaker2: [02:53:28] In Boston. Well, I mean, he could have been spending his time, you know, going after criminals. Yes. In New York. But instead he had to go after Donald Trump. Speaker4: [02:53:35] Well, he made it clear he wasn't going to do that like the day, you know? Well, yeah, exactly. Speaker2: [02:53:39] Nobody really thought he was going to do the job of a DA, right? Speaker16: [02:53:42] Yeah, right. Meanwhile, they went after Giuliani. Steven: [02:53:44] Who, by the way, single handedly lowered the American crime rate by a third. Yeah. Accusing him of being racist. And they didn't understand why he was they didn't understand why he was America's mayor. Yeah. Speaker16: [02:53:53] Remember when Ronald Reagan died and they. Steven: [02:53:54] Had that funeral and it was like the media was dumbfounded that. Speaker16: [02:53:57] Most. Steven: [02:53:58] Of the country was mourning? Yeah. They were so disconnected, they actually thought that everyone hated him. Like. Like they did. Right. Speaker16: [02:54:03] Apparently, they didn't look at the electoral. Steven: [02:54:05] Map. Speaker4: [02:54:05] Thanks to the media. Steven: [02:54:06] Right. It's they're so disconnected where they actually think that you're going here, like, oh, finally, some justice they have. Speaker4: [02:54:12] Most people believe in this country, you know, more liberal than conservative, which couldn't be further from the truth. Steven: [02:54:18] No, it couldn't. You have a few major cities. Speaker16: [02:54:19] They control a lot of. Steven: [02:54:20] These major cities, unfortunately. But that's why you have one side that's always demanding transparency, right? That's why we want to be on YouTube. That's why we say, hey, leave the likes, leave the dislikes. We've been ratioed sometimes and there have been Twitter trolls, there have been liberal trolls on YouTube. Speaker16: [02:54:32] Go leave it for. Steven: [02:54:33] Everyone to see because we believe the totality of the record usually tends to play play in the favor of conservatives because we make all of our references available. We believe that the record, the more there is a record, it benefits truth. They want to remove the dislike button. They want to remove Joe Rogan's Spotify episodes and not tell you about it. They want a shadow content on Facebook. That's how I met my lawyer because we. Speaker16: [02:54:52] Found out through their. Steven: [02:54:53] Coating baked in that it happened. The same thing with Twitter. They want to clamp. Speaker16: [02:54:58] Down. Steven: [02:54:58] On places like Rumble. Think about that. The French government and Rumble actually had the balls to tell them, Go screw yourself. One side is consistently not not always, but consistently demanding transparency. And one side is without exception demanding the removal of it. Speaker16: [02:55:14] That should tell you a lot. That really does matter. I get that you can't follow all the micro policy, but when you look at one side that's constantly trying to. Steven: [02:55:21] Move and. Speaker16: [02:55:22] Eliminate. Steven: [02:55:23] Voices of dissent and one who's saying, hey, I just want to be a voice of dissent. Speaker16: [02:55:27] That's that's an important dynamic. And that's what you're seeing right now. Speaker4: [02:55:30] Yeah, it's about class, actually. It's elitist. And, you know, they hate the average working. Joe Yeah, of course they do. Speaker16: [02:55:37] Which is why Donald Trump is such a threat. Speaker4: [02:55:39] And it's that gap's getting more as far as who has the power. Speaker16: [02:55:42] Speaking of elitist. Steven: [02:55:43] Asshole, this guy, Wolf Blitzer, is the dumbest human being has ever. Speaker16: [02:55:47] Met. Speaker4: [02:55:47] Well, who did he blow at CNN, too? Steven: [02:55:50] I don't know. It would be. Speaker16: [02:55:51] Whom. He probably blew everybody. Speaker4: [02:55:54] That's not even a beard on his face. Steven: [02:55:57] He probably blew half the daytime host because they convinced him that they were head of network. Speaker4: [02:56:01] But he looked like that when he was 11. Yeah, I've never seen any. He looks the same. Well. Speaker2: [02:56:06] Uh. Oh, geez. No, you guys are. Speaker9: [02:56:08] Talking about getting. Steven: [02:56:08] Blown. Gosh, why is this? Why is it just smile and blow me? Why is he so mad? Why did he even deserve it? Speaker9: [02:56:16] I don't know. Hey, Nick. Nick tipped him off with the. Speaker4: [02:56:20] Did I trigger that? Speaker2: [02:56:20] Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Speaker4: [02:56:22] I don't even know why we ever using that term again. Steven: [02:56:24] I don't know why. We have him in studio. Speaker3: [02:56:26] He comes and goes as he pleases. Speaker4: [02:56:28] Where do you keep him? Speaker16: [02:56:29] I have no idea. I mean, how does he get in? Steven: [02:56:32] I just see the bills for having him on retainer, which could be used to indict me. Speaker2: [02:56:36] Oh, that's. Speaker4: [02:56:37] Look at Wolf. Did he not look the same? Oh, no. They cut to Tony Randall. Yes. Uh. Speaker16: [02:56:44] Okay. Let's see what they're saying. If it's anything. Steven: [02:56:46] Legitimate as a. Speaker8: [02:56:47] Major speech. Speaker16: [02:56:48] Later tonight, then we can. Steven: [02:56:48] Grab a couple of chats and we'll get going. And we'll see you guys tomorrow ish. Speaker5: [02:56:53] Well, if we do know that former President Donald Trump had initially planned to. Speaker3: [02:56:57] Make. Speaker5: [02:56:58] A brief comment at the courthouse, he did. Speaker16: [02:57:00] Not do this man owns. Steven: [02:57:01] No upper teeth advisors. Speaker5: [02:57:02] He is not going to hold back this evening. Speaker8: [02:57:04] When he addresses the nation from Mar a. Speaker5: [02:57:06] Lago offering a full. Speaker14: [02:57:08] Throated defense. Speaker16: [02:57:09] It's like this guy is. Steven: [02:57:10] Doing a character of an uppity snob. Like, well. Speaker18: [02:57:13] If you understand former President Trump. Speaker4: [02:57:17] I love doing The New York Times crossword puzzle. Yes, absolutely. Should I start with I. Speaker18: [02:57:22] Really was stumped when they used soliloquy. Speaker4: [02:57:25] That was difficult. I really threw us for. Speaker18: [02:57:28] A Sunday bender. I had a couple extra motions. Speaker5: [02:57:32] Yeah, clearly See by the. Speaker14: [02:57:34] Trading places courtroom. Speaker5: [02:57:35] As Kara was just describing there, this absolutely he should trade. Steven: [02:57:38] Spaces with a grave. Speaker5: [02:57:39] He was. Speaker3: [02:57:40] Sitting in a. Speaker5: [02:57:42] Legal. Speaker4: [02:57:42] It reminds me of Glenn Greenwald a little bit. Speaker16: [02:57:45] Oh yeah. Steven: [02:57:45] I can see a little bit. Speaker2: [02:57:46] Yeah. I'm sorry. Hold on. This argument has been used over and over and over again. Donald Trump will enter the courtroom and for once not be in control. Do you seriously think that Donald Trump. Sorry. This guy has been in every courtroom that there is. He's been sued by everybody. He's been flayed in the media. He's been the president of the United States. He's been impeached twice. He's been brought up for. Do you think he's quaking in his boots on this weak ass charge? I apologize. Speaker16: [02:58:10] No, but here's the thing, though. When they try to say. Steven: [02:58:11] Where he's not in control, think about that. This is the victim bully complex, right? They are clearly the bullies. They are using the arm of the law against someone and they want to claim. Speaker16: [02:58:20] He look, he's the bully. Steven: [02:58:22] He's in control. He's the one. You guys you guys hampered his presidency for an entire year and then you guys. Speaker16: [02:58:28] Impeached him twice on trumped up charges, by the way, which have gone nowhere. And now this is another one they're trying to go. This bully is getting a taste of his own medicine. Steven: [02:58:35] You're the bullies, even though you look like. Speaker16: [02:58:37] A Anyway, I can't even. Well, we're on Rumble homo. Speaker4: [02:58:40] Should we have a bet? How how many percentage points? Cnn's ratings went up today. Today. As opposed to. Speaker2: [02:58:47] Oh, CNN has been absolutely frothing at the mouth over this because every time they talk about Trump, that's why they covered his plane. Yeah, they covered his plane taking off and landing and the motorcade and everything else. And here's Donald Trump. Here was the appearance like that? Speaker16: [02:59:03] Yeah, that was pretty much what happened. Yeah. A body language expert. Speaker4: [02:59:06] They showed it like it was the Zapruder film. Look at his wigs going back into the I want. I really am. I'm curious to see what kind of ratings they got right. Speaker16: [02:59:17] Well, for CNN, their numbers would be great if they. 11. Yeah, seven people. Steven: [02:59:21] I would say like during the day, if they got 600,000, that would be a mammoth, huge. That would be huge for them. That would be huge. Hey, brunettes. Aging well. Speaker4: [02:59:29] Ah, yeah, that hair color. Speaker3: [02:59:31] Yeah. Speaker17: [02:59:31] Now they can go through these documents themselves. The indictment itself, as well as the statement of facts. Joining me now, Karen Agnifilo writes the. Speaker16: [02:59:38] Statement of facts. Steven: [02:59:39] By the way, you guys all have access to it. The statement of. Speaker2: [02:59:41] Facts documents pretty easy to go through. Charges one through 34 are the same. Yes. Yes. Just read. Speaker4: [02:59:47] That's what I didn't understand. Steven: [02:59:48] The only thing that is different is some charges are about Michael Cohen and some some are about the Trump Organization. Speaker4: [02:59:54] In other words, so much shit against the wall. You can see it's got to stick. One of them's going to stick. Speaker2: [02:59:58] You committed a crime and then you wrote a check for it, and then there was a check stub for that. And then there was a journal entry in your accounting software for that. And there was an invoice for that. Yes. Speaker4: [03:00:06] You guys should be lawyers. I'm serious. Steven: [03:00:07] That's throwing as much shit against the wall. How about by the way, that's commonly. Speaker16: [03:00:10] And I wouldn't want. Speaker4: [03:00:11] To represent me, but you guys. Speaker16: [03:00:12] Somebody else on Bleecker. Steven: [03:00:13] Street that's known as an Anderson Cooper Rembrandt. Speaker3: [03:00:15] Are some of the evidence that they have And the district. Speaker5: [03:00:20] Attorney, Rembrandt. Speaker9: [03:00:22] Whatever, I don't care. Speaker3: [03:00:22] His predecessor got and one of them is David Pecker. Speaker4: [03:00:25] How's things at great clips Jesus Christ Center preparing him for brain surgery. Speaker16: [03:00:30] It looks like this. Steven: [03:00:31] Guy just came in from a wind tunnel. Speaker16: [03:00:32] Only chose this. Speaker2: [03:00:34] He just said Mr. Pecker is playing a large role in this case. Speaker4: [03:00:37] Did he really, guys? Speaker2: [03:00:38] Did he really? That was. Speaker16: [03:00:38] Comedy gold. And he has to say it with a serious face with that hairdo. Speaker3: [03:00:42] President to set. Steven: [03:00:44] Up like a reverse. Speaker9: [03:00:44] Riff raff catch and kill scheme. Speaker5: [03:00:46] To suppress stories coming out for the purpose of the election. That's what the argument is. Speaker3: [03:00:51] I assume that's what he has said before the grand jury. And then there were direct conversations between Pecker and Trump multiple times, including later. Speaker4: [03:00:58] On, write this shit. Speaker16: [03:00:59] He just said pecker while doing write this shit. Speaker4: [03:01:01] Yeah, while doing that. Speaker2: [03:01:03] He's a hunting pecker. Speaker3: [03:01:03] In fact, that's powerful evidence. Speaker4: [03:01:05] Pecker versus mushroom head. Yes. Speaker3: [03:01:07] Senses that Trump would have paid this money. In any case. Speaker16: [03:01:09] Someone bringing Detective. Steven: [03:01:10] Cockburn get to the bottom of this. Speaker3: [03:01:11] Coming out for his family, for Melania and the like. Right. Speaker17: [03:01:13] Okay, Karen, here's the thing, though, that I still am confused about, and that is we know that Michael Cohen himself has said that this catch and kill scheme was in place prior to 2007 when he joined the Trump Organization, which obviously is before Trump was a candidate. We all heard that all week in Washington Post reporting that Trump team Trump, including Cohen, pressured In Touch magazine with money to not print the Stormy Daniels story 2011 Again, Trump was not a candidate. How do they get around it and make this? This was for the election a predicate upon which the felony counts are charged. Speaker16: [03:01:46] That's what I said to you. Steven: [03:01:47] And you dismissed me. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. Speaker16: [03:01:51] It's not true. Steven: [03:01:52] I don't know. I just wanted to. I just wanted to start some kind of controversy, some conflict. It just felt like there was a lull. Speaker17: [03:01:59] Yeah, no, I was getting a little. I think the conversations that it was about the election also that. Steven: [03:02:04] Who wants to bet she can fit her whole fist in her mouth? This one powerful. Speaker17: [03:02:07] Evidence here to show that this wasn't for some other purpose. I got to. Speaker4: [03:02:11] Stay out of this conflict of interest. Speaker17: [03:02:13] And of course, as Ryan just said, the thank you for helping me win. Speaker4: [03:02:17] I got to be a violation of. Speaker20: [03:02:19] Depaulo finance reform. Speaker17: [03:02:20] Those are the the the timing of this I think is critical. All right. So the timing is critical. Laura Coates, let me ask you, though, so. Speaker14: [03:02:26] She brought up a really. Speaker2: [03:02:27] Good question. Basically, he's like, hey, this has been out there in the news forever, right? How are they saying that this hurts his campaign? That's the point that I made. Speaker16: [03:02:35] Exactly. This happens all the time where that's why I say nothing up our sleeve. You can see. Steven: [03:02:39] We're watching live how many times? I mean, if we had a record of how many times we've gone on air and said this is the prediction that we're making and they do it, whether it's gun control, whether it's terrorism, whether it's some kind of transgender bill, you know exactly what's going to happen. And today, this what's kind of boring is that everything here has been so predictable. This is a paint. Speaker4: [03:02:57] By numbers. But let me ask you this. Like you said, everybody watching today, probably even people in the well have the independent Charlotte Airport. Yeah, the whole country. This is really. Speaker16: [03:03:08] Walking on that airlines saying. Speaker4: [03:03:10] That was a beauty. The bear slept. Yeah, but my point is so yeah, almost everybody watching would say this is really flimsy, blah, blah, blah. Right? And let's say then we finally get to the trial a year from now and he is convicted. What kind of, like, backlash? Steven: [03:03:26] Oh, I don't know. I mean, there's a good chance that he could be again. Speaker16: [03:03:28] Because. Speaker4: [03:03:29] For us, we're done on the right. And tyranny is the. No, no, no, no, no. Speaker16: [03:03:32] We're not done. Because even if the if the in my. Steven: [03:03:35] Opinion, if the nominee is still DeSantis, he's going to be using this. Right. There still is going to be a track record with this. Just like think about what happened with January 6th. It only gets worse with liberalism and with leftism. Communism, socialism. All you need to do is take their claim and add time, and it almost. Speaker16: [03:03:51] Never works out. It works. Speaker4: [03:03:52] Out. That's right. Speaker2: [03:03:53] So by the way, you know, Rashida brought this point up. He said, look, don't expect this to actually happen in January. I mean, it could be delayed until after the election because of COVID. You could essentially be trying president of the United States, Donald Trump, again. Right. Right. Speaker16: [03:04:07] For these. That's the. Steven: [03:04:08] Goal. Oh, my God. That's the goal. They want you to say there's two. And by the way, I'm guilty of this where I was going. You know, there's there's too much baggage. And I do think that if this baggage gets to be so much, Donald Trump may need to at some point for the good of the country and the party say, okay, maybe I'll step back. I hate that that is the case. Right. And and I understand the position he's in, by the way, because if he does that, then people forget about it. And then you go away in the dead of night. This is one thing I think someone out there was saying this today, like, oh, he really shouldn't have attacked the judge the way that he did. Maybe not the way that he did. But here's the thing. There's the there's there's the legal argument and there is the court of public opinion. Okay. Johnny Depp lost a legal case across the pond, to be clear. Yeah. What changed was there was enough evidence and there was enough of a cry from the court of public opinion that then when the second trial took place, or maybe it was the third, I don't know the number of it at that point. There was also relevant evidence, but Johnny Depp didn't just let it happen in quiet. Right? So it's not smart to if you were to listen to all of the lawyers, all of the advisers, the political ruling class, they would. Speaker16: [03:05:02] Say, absolutely, don't say anything. Right. It'll be a matter of record. It can play against you. Steven: [03:05:07] And he's saying, no, this needs to be as loud as possible so that this judge has consequences. This judge understands that people NDR so that they know that eyes are on them. If this is going to be a travesty of justice, you know what? I could say the same thing. Hey, was it smart of us to go after Susan Wojcicki with the Vox Adpocalypse? Absolutely not. Let alone to have her in a Game of Thrones sketch where Peter Dinklage shoots her with a crossbow. Figuratively. It was a sketch. But the point is to have her played by. Speaker16: [03:05:34] Clint Howard. Steven: [03:05:35] The least attractive man who you can possibly think of. No, but what it did was it bothered her and it drew attention to who she was, because before that, a lot of people. Speaker16: [03:05:43] Weren't even familiar. Steven: [03:05:44] Our channel, I guarantee you. Speaker16: [03:05:45] Would have been permanently. Steven: [03:05:46] Removed if we didn't draw enough attention to it. That's what Donald Trump is doing. And I think to ask him to withdraw if he thinks that it's because of the baggage, because of the baggage, because of these trumped up charges, I don't think that's a fair ask of the guy. Speaker16: [03:06:01] I get that he's an I get he's bombastic. I get he's a bloviating ass sometimes. Steven: [03:06:05] But I really think that's an unfair ask. And I get why he'd be pissed. Right. So why do you think he declared. Speaker2: [03:06:10] His presidency or his candidacy for president again so early? We were all like, what are you doing? Like, this is about a year before people even start talking about this, right? One of the reasons was for this. I think he knew these guys were going to come after him. He's like, all right, you're going to come after me. You're going to trump up charges, fine. You're going to be doing it against the guy running for president. Yep. Good luck. Yep. Right now, I've got a megaphone that maybe is even bigger than the one that I already possessed as the former president of the United States. Very popular guy still, right? People want to tune in like they're going to tune in tonight. In fact, Chris, let me know. The CEO of Rumble, they're like, hey, we are we're like strapping duct tape and additional servers to each other right now because we know how many people are going to be tuning in for this stuff to make sure that everybody can watch on Rumble. So make sure you watch tonight. But he is going to have a massive audience because he's running for president and now they're attacking somebody who's running for office, not somebody who just happens to be the former president of the United States. Right. I mean, I'm not saying that Trump shouldn't do that, but he's playing 4D chess. And it feels like these guys are playing checkers. Yes. And he's just running laps around him right now. Speaker4: [03:07:11] He's being tried in the media and he's representing himself. Yeah, that's why that's how I look at it. Steven: [03:07:15] You need to fight both. You need to fight both battlefronts. Speaker4: [03:07:17] Yeah. George W Bush. I remember those days. Turn the other cheek. Yeah, you get steamrolled. Steven: [03:07:21] Yeah, exactly. If they can't make you out to be dumb, they make you out to be evil. That's what they do. That's their playbook. All right, let's grab a couple of chats. And by the way, Nick Reddit.com. Speaker16: [03:07:29] You are going to be I want to make. Steven: [03:07:31] Sure April 21st, The Funny Bone, Saint Louis, April 22nd, the Funny bone in Saint Charles, Missouri. You can go to Nick Typekit. I'm telling you, you guys want to go and see him live. It's by the way, it's it's definitely not a a PG Show your shirts. Speaker2: [03:07:43] Where are your shirts? I want to I want to see that. Where are your merch? If you've got, like a fight like. Steven: [03:07:46] Yeah, take a mug out there and please, for the love of God, don't. Speaker2: [03:07:49] Heckle, don't heckle because it will be. Speaker16: [03:07:52] You are taking your life in your hands. Steven: [03:07:53] Yeah. Speaker16: [03:07:54] Him going off on. Steven: [03:07:55] People in the crowd. At the was legendary comics would go down to watch him just flip out on somebody for his entire set. Speaker4: [03:08:03] So I usually start the fights. It's very odd. What do you say, man? You're not paying. You're not paying attention. Speaker16: [03:08:10] What was it one time you. Steven: [03:08:11] Said your age and one lady said something like, What was that, you selfish feminist whore? She was like I said, you look good for your age. You're like, Oh, thank you. Speaker18: [03:08:19] It was something like that, right? Speaker4: [03:08:20] That's happened about 40 times, especially as my eyes start to go. I've yelled at waitresses, you know, Could you be a little louder with the fucking. Oh, you work here? Sorry. Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, that's my bad. Yes, I've had many, but I'm a much better now. I'm mellowed out. No, no, don't. Speaker16: [03:08:38] Don't change. Speaker4: [03:08:38] I'll be 78 on Tuesday. What the fuck? They've worn me down to a nub. Steven: [03:08:44] Let's. Let's grab some chats before we. We head out here for people where they're lining up. Speaker3: [03:08:48] Mr. Comedian has a question for the crew. Do you think the left is intentionally creating a scenario in which no justice can be achieved peacefully? Yep. Speaker4: [03:08:57] That's 1,000%. Speaker16: [03:08:58] Yes. Or you know what? I will say this. Steven: [03:09:00] It's an acceptable scenario to them because they can use that. I'm not saying that that is what they're what they are deliberately trying to do, but they have definitely taken into account that it's a scenario and that for them is look what they did with January 6th. Right? They put feds in there. The only person shot was a protester. And they have acted as though that was, you know, Munich. Speaker4: [03:09:20] Yeah, They're trolling us. Yeah. Steven: [03:09:22] Yeah. Let's grab 1 or 2 more chats. Speaker3: [03:09:25] Tie my shoe. If you guys could get a justice on one specific politician, who and what would you charge? That's easy. Speaker2: [03:09:33] That's easy for me. What? Hillary? Speaker16: [03:09:35] Yeah. Really? Speaker2: [03:09:37] Murder. Is there a worst person on the planet I would do? Steven: [03:09:40] Swalwell Just because I would like to watch the hearing. Speaker2: [03:09:42] No, come on. That guy's trial consequential. Speaker4: [03:09:45] You guys are both off. I go with Dick Durbin. Dick. Speaker16: [03:09:49] I. No. Who would you want? Speaker4: [03:09:50] Who would you want? I think I'm with Gerald on this. That's the first thing that popped in my head. That thick ankled dog face. I mean, yeah, I know. Speaker2: [03:10:00] That's kasey's drunk laugh. Yeah. Speaker3: [03:10:03] Yeah. Speaker4: [03:10:05] I got like. And but I am forgetting somebody there is a guy. Speaker16: [03:10:08] Anthony Weiner would be hilarious. Steven: [03:10:09] You have Hillary Clinton, you have Nancy Pelosi. You have Joe Biden, Joe Biden, AOC. I'm not sure. I'm trying to think of who else. Speaker4: [03:10:17] I feel like there's a guy on the left that I hate even more. Steven: [03:10:19] But Harry Reid Oh, Harry Reid. Speaker2: [03:10:21] But he's he's kind of self-selected out. Speaker4: [03:10:24] He hurt himself on a Bowflex. Never recovered. Yeah, that's what he claimed. Steven: [03:10:27] It was his brother. Speaker16: [03:10:28] Oh, was it? Oh, my God. You bring this up. So this is this is hilarious. What happened was we. Steven: [03:10:33] Actually we actually broke this back when it was. Speaker16: [03:10:34] Just the website. He said it was elastic. Steven: [03:10:36] Bands right in his bathroom. And I was like, this. Speaker16: [03:10:39] Is a glass shower door. You don't anchor your elastic. Steven: [03:10:41] You're training. Speaker16: [03:10:41] Elastic so that it was impossible. Steven: [03:10:43] People saw him get into a drunken bar fight with his brother, Larry, Larry, Larry. Drunken Larry beat the shit out of his brother. Harry. Speaker4: [03:10:51] What are your sources? Help me so I can prove my. Speaker16: [03:10:53] Oh, this is from a long time ago. Speaker4: [03:10:54] I have to make my shit up. Speaker16: [03:10:55] Yes, I know. Speaker4: [03:10:56] No, go ahead. Speaker16: [03:10:56] I'm kidding. So do I. He doesn't have a brother. No, it's Harry. Drunk and Harry beat up. Steven: [03:11:01] Larry, and. Speaker16: [03:11:01] They were like, Yeah, yeah. He just had to make that up. Steven: [03:11:03] His brother got drunk and beat the hell out. Speaker4: [03:11:04] And Harry always talking about being a boxer, right? Yeah, exactly. Apparently Larry was better. Speaker16: [03:11:09] Yeah, well, you look at. Steven: [03:11:10] Harry Reid, the guy, just. The guy doesn't look like he could stand up to a punch, but I have no idea. Maybe he's like the white Tommy Hearn. Speaker16: [03:11:16] Didn't he. Speaker4: [03:11:16] Hurt himself? That was the cover. Yeah. Working out. Steven: [03:11:18] He said it was workout. Speaker16: [03:11:19] His elastic band. He said he put them in the bathroom door. Yeah, Folsom Street Fair. Who else? Who are you thinking of? Steven: [03:11:26] I'm trying to think of who you're thinking of. Speaker4: [03:11:28] I'm thinking. Yeah, I'm thinking of a lib that I fucking have a fan mail. The squad. They're just. Speaker16: [03:11:36] They're all. Yeah. Ilhan Omar, Rashida. Steven: [03:11:38] Tlaib, AOC. Speaker4: [03:11:39] I'll take care of them myself. Speaker2: [03:11:40] You have to have a legal case against them. We're not. We're not the d.A. Of Manhattan. Speaker16: [03:11:44] Right? Steven: [03:11:44] Yeah, right, exactly. I'm trying to make a legit beef. Speaker16: [03:11:46] I don't know. I think I'm missing. Steven: [03:11:48] I think. I still think that Eric Swalwell would be the funniest. Okay. Speaker2: [03:11:51] That'd be fun. Steven: [03:11:52] Yeah, it would be funny just because it's. Well, wiener, too. I mean, he kind of did go through it, but not really. But just because people apparently he had stuff on his laptop that made people at the FBI throw up. Speaker2: [03:12:01] Oh, you know what? What? I'm losing his name right now. The vice president for Clinton. What's his name? Gore. Steven: [03:12:08] Oh, yeah, Gore. Gore. Speaker2: [03:12:09] I would love to see that because he's such a prick. Speaker4: [03:12:11] Boy, he he he never recovered. Did he know he went crazy? Yeah. Put on £100, grew a beard. Speaker2: [03:12:16] Still, he still haunts us on climate change. Don't worry. Steven: [03:12:19] Exactly. That's true. After every single prediction that he's made is wrong. Speaker2: [03:12:22] Well, he just changes them. Speaker4: [03:12:23] I heard he's dating Greta Thunberg. Yeah. Steven: [03:12:26] Okay. Yeah, but he makes her dress up like a man. Speaker2: [03:12:28] Well, now she's 18, so, you know. Speaker16: [03:12:30] A little boy. Yes, exactly. All right, let's grab. Steven: [03:12:32] One more. Speaker2: [03:12:33] Chat. Final. Speaker16: [03:12:35] Good one. And again. Steven: [03:12:35] Mug club is free for well, it's still free for the next two weeks, but do consider signing up because, you know, then we know how many of you there are. And Nick doesn't come cheap. He likes things with gold and Nick's. Speaker2: [03:12:45] Nick's promo code. And the way to sign up for Nick is coming out, I think, Thursday for his supporters. So, yes, Nick DiPaolo supporter watching today. That'll be coming. Yeah. Speaker16: [03:12:52] Thank you all of us. Steven: [03:12:53] Patrons on Patreon you'll get you know you'll get for for a lower price you'll get more. Speaker16: [03:12:56] More content, including next show and everything else. Steven: [03:12:58] So it's it's an. Speaker16: [03:12:59] Alliance while being decentralized. Steven: [03:13:01] And no one tells anybody else what to do other than, you know, like meeting, you know, the minimum episode count. Speaker4: [03:13:06] No better time to be informed as they're doing this to Trump. And they're coming for you later. Yes, exactly. Steven: [03:13:12] They're coming for all of us. There's no doubt about that. I heard a knock out there and I'm nervous about it. One final chat. All right. Speaker3: [03:13:18] Switz guy asks King, Trump countersue the DA if he's innocent. No. Speaker16: [03:13:23] Well, that's a legal question. Steven: [03:13:24] Let's grab one other chat. That's a that's a required question. Speaker16: [03:13:27] You can't do that. You can ask him. He's going to. Speaker4: [03:13:29] Go to Judge Judy with it. There can. Speaker2: [03:13:30] Be. Yeah, exactly. Steven: [03:13:31] What it looks like. Speaker16: [03:13:31] Paul Begala. Speaker2: [03:13:33] Malicious prosecution doesn't cross fire cheese. Pay my legal fees. No crying out. Steven: [03:13:37] Loud. Speaker3: [03:13:38] 31 blonde dog. Steven: [03:13:40] I No, but CNN has a Make-A-Wish kid right now. Oh. Speaker16: [03:13:43] Jesus. Speaker3: [03:13:44] My God. Speaker4: [03:13:47] Look at this man. Steven: [03:13:49] He's starring in the new special. You have progeria. Charlie Brown. Speaker16: [03:13:53] God. Let's grab final chat. Speaker3: [03:13:55] 31 blonde dog ass. Oh. Anyone else think YouTube blocked Stephen because they knew he would cover this? They blocked him right before the midterms as well. Seems a little sus to me. Uh, allegedly. Steven: [03:14:08] You said it, not me. I don't. Here's the thing. I don't know if it was this because I don't know if this was on their radar, but I do know that, you know, we obviously with Nashville, what happened? Were we covered also as well, the indictment at first I do know that, look, it's been the number one conservative channel ever on YouTube with a bullet. And I think it's really more so about them seeing you. And this is a testament to you being siphoned off and going to rumble, which, by the way, is also why they created new policies for us where we should have had two strikes, but it's technically one on each channel because they really, really there could be an antitrust case if they start getting rid of people who are directing people to rumble. That's right. That could actually be creating that could be a monopoly, right? That could be a violation of antitrust law. So they have to be really, really careful. They want to send us a message that, hey, look, we own you. And the good news is they don't imagine taking a 65%, you know, haircut off the top. If we were suspended from YouTube and we've turned down more than 10% of sponsors. So they want to make sure that they control you and say, look, play ball, but they don't want to remove us because it would be tantamount to saying that conservatives aren't welcome. That's my theory. I don't think it's because of this. But I do know, I should say, I know I can't say for a fact, but I know with certainty because of people with whom we've discussed this, that they are not happy seeing their numbers go down and rumble numbers go up. And I guarantee you they're having a fit with Donald Trump streaming to rumble today. But hey, look, that's your fault. You benefit from section 230, right? You benefit from these protections where you don't have the liability of being a platform. And then you remove the sitting president editorializing just like a platform. Guess what? Speaker16: [03:15:43] You get to. Steven: [03:15:44] Watch your company and your platform. Speaker16: [03:15:47] Die and we'll be there in a week, two weeks. I don't know the rules to set another match, figuratively. Steven: [03:15:52] We'll see you tomorrow with a recap a lot of credit.com/mob club 10 a.m. Eastern.