1 00:00:01,626 --> 00:00:04,754 Hello and welcome back to the Darknet Demystified. 2 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:07,298 I'm your host, Sam Bent, a.k.a. 3 00:00:07,298 --> 00:00:08,675 DoingFedTime 4 00:00:08,675 --> 00:00:11,386 And today we're going to discuss current events. 5 00:00:12,262 --> 00:00:17,267 We're going to talk about the feds having trash opsec to the point of being unable 6 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:20,020 to come up with even a halfway decent 7 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:23,732 password and wide ChatGPT malware. 8 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:26,651 You know, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. 9 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:32,115 We're also going to talk about a recent article detailing how a police department 10 00:00:32,115 --> 00:00:37,454 got owned and the details, you know, how they got put on the darknet. 11 00:00:37,454 --> 00:00:41,499 And we'll wrap everything up with my personal favorite story 12 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,294 in regards to the police getting out, which is 13 00:00:45,336 --> 00:00:49,257 just so happens to be something that actually happened about an hour away 14 00:00:49,257 --> 00:00:53,136 from where I live, which to me is probably one of the funniest. 15 00:00:53,678 --> 00:00:56,222 You know, police getting on stories that I've heard 16 00:00:56,931 --> 00:00:58,933 that I can remember in a long time. 17 00:00:59,350 --> 00:01:02,520 So lets get to it. 18 00:01:03,772 --> 00:01:06,900 So first off, I have a ton of RSS 19 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:10,320 feeds set up for many different sites that are out there. 20 00:01:11,279 --> 00:01:14,741 Basically, I went to Google Alerts and found sites that I liked, 21 00:01:15,033 --> 00:01:17,827 you know, or like ones that produce pretty interesting 22 00:01:17,827 --> 00:01:21,998 or halfway decent content or news stories that I found. 23 00:01:21,998 --> 00:01:22,791 Good. 24 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:28,296 And then I used, you know, Google Alerts to set up a Google alert 25 00:01:28,296 --> 00:01:31,841 when they put out new content, if that makes sense. 26 00:01:32,801 --> 00:01:36,304 Once I have these Google alerts set, I have them, 27 00:01:36,304 --> 00:01:39,432 you know, basically set as RSS feeds. 28 00:01:40,141 --> 00:01:42,936 Now, because they're set as RSS feeds, I can take them 29 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:48,024 and I can plug them into an RSS feed reader in my web browser. 30 00:01:48,024 --> 00:01:53,113 So any time a story or new content comes up about a specific thing 31 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:56,991 or on a specific site, I get an alert that lets me know about that. 32 00:01:57,909 --> 00:01:59,327 This is, you know, it's pretty dope. 33 00:01:59,327 --> 00:02:02,539 So like if at the end of the day you want to know, you know, 34 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:06,459 when a news story comes out about, I don't know, Shaquille O'Neal. 35 00:02:06,835 --> 00:02:09,546 Like, you can set that up as a Google alert 36 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:13,675 and you will be notified if that name is mentioned 37 00:02:14,259 --> 00:02:17,470 and you'll get an alert to it on your RSS feed. 38 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:21,266 So it's is really it's a pretty good way of being able to monitor 39 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:23,935 the Internet for specific things 40 00:02:23,935 --> 00:02:28,064 that you might be interested in or like, you know, you're looking into or you're, 41 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:31,025 you know, you want to monitor on a regular basis. 42 00:02:31,025 --> 00:02:34,529 Like if you're trading in, you know, crypto, you might be interested 43 00:02:34,529 --> 00:02:38,324 to have a, you know, an alert on, say, Bitcoin or something, you know. 44 00:02:39,075 --> 00:02:44,247 Anyways, most of the sites that I have this set up on, they don't have RSS feeds. 45 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:51,004 So this is like my way of creating them so that I can monitor the latest news on, 46 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:55,425 you know, different topics and industries like, you know, almost in real time. 47 00:02:56,926 --> 00:02:57,969 So the other day 48 00:02:57,969 --> 00:03:01,014 I got an alert from one of these sites, you know, 49 00:03:01,055 --> 00:03:04,058 on which I have one of those RSS feeds set up. 50 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:08,104 There's an article with the the title was like 51 00:03:08,646 --> 00:03:13,484 Deserialized Web Security or Obscurity Roundup or something like that, 52 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:19,032 which like highlighted Slack, Okta security breaches. 53 00:03:19,032 --> 00:03:23,995 And the last thing which, you know, really caught my eye was the, you know, U.S. 54 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:26,706 weak U.S. government passwords. 55 00:03:26,706 --> 00:03:29,751 You know, so so naturally, I had to click on it 56 00:03:29,751 --> 00:03:34,214 and, you know, go to it and check it out. 57 00:03:34,297 --> 00:03:38,885 So like I said, like my primary interest was mainly in like the latter 58 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:43,389 part of the title, which, you know, is the weak governmental passwords. 59 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:46,726 I know for a fact that, you know, a ton of U.S. 60 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:49,979 government agencies use trash, 61 00:03:49,979 --> 00:03:54,359 you know, passwords that are just horrible. 62 00:03:54,359 --> 00:03:57,362 And I'll get into that in the YouTube video sometime. But 63 00:03:58,488 --> 00:03:59,822 it's always fun to 64 00:03:59,822 --> 00:04:04,369 hear them talk about like that from their own standpoint 65 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:08,498 to, you know, like get that statistical data 66 00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:12,669 and to understand how like incredibly lazy government 67 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:15,129 employees are as a whole. 68 00:04:16,547 --> 00:04:19,092 And so now that I actually said that out loud, it's 69 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:22,303 like I just absolutely solidified 70 00:04:22,303 --> 00:04:24,555 my reputation as a nerd with that Statement 71 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:29,769 Fun statistical data, wow that's a bad hit. 72 00:04:29,978 --> 00:04:31,479 Okay. Moving on. 73 00:04:31,479 --> 00:04:36,526 So going through the final report, some things like really struck 74 00:04:36,526 --> 00:04:39,946 me as pretty nuts even for like, you know, the laziest 75 00:04:40,321 --> 00:04:42,740 federal government employees that are out there. 76 00:04:43,241 --> 00:04:45,410 So I'll definitely clarify. 77 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:49,247 So there was a, you know, this test that was done by the United States 78 00:04:49,247 --> 00:04:53,001 Department of the Interior, and I know a ton of people 79 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:55,295 who are going to be like, you know, 80 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:59,841 if I actually have this conversation with them, like would be saying something 81 00:04:59,841 --> 00:05:02,969 like, you know, who cares about the Department of the Interior? 82 00:05:02,969 --> 00:05:07,473 They, you know, manage public land and materials and, you know, 83 00:05:07,473 --> 00:05:12,478 national parks, news, crap like that, you know, wildlife refuges. 84 00:05:12,478 --> 00:05:15,523 And like, you know, the fact of the matter is, at the end of the day, 85 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:17,984 even if there was nothing 86 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:21,988 to glean in terms of like valuable information 87 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:25,616 that isn't true, you would still have a 88 00:05:25,616 --> 00:05:28,995 foothold in a federal agency. 89 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:32,749 One of the quotes in the article 90 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:36,878 that the report, you know, had was from Forbes, 91 00:05:36,878 --> 00:05:42,467 which discussed, you know, ransomware attacks on the Colonel pipeline, 92 00:05:42,842 --> 00:05:45,720 all of them pronouncing it right, which, 93 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,806 you know, they were quoted as saying, effectively shut down 94 00:05:48,806 --> 00:05:51,601 half of the country's fuel supply chain 95 00:05:51,934 --> 00:05:54,437 by stealing one password, unquote. 96 00:05:56,314 --> 00:06:00,610 I think if I was a ransomware attacker, it's a pretty safe 97 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:04,405 bet that at the end of the day, the people who own, 98 00:06:04,655 --> 00:06:08,368 you know, that hardware are definitely going to be paying. 99 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:13,122 You're damn near whatever I ask to do something like that. 100 00:06:13,122 --> 00:06:14,916 Back up and running 101 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:18,753 now, like, well, we're discussing this. 102 00:06:18,753 --> 00:06:23,299 Keep in mind that this whole test that they ran wasn't some, you know, 103 00:06:23,299 --> 00:06:30,014 hardcore vulnerability assessment, like it wasn't some in-depth covert pen test. 104 00:06:30,014 --> 00:06:32,475 Like, they didn't use any exploits. 105 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:36,312 Like, literally all they did was crack passwords. 106 00:06:36,354 --> 00:06:37,939 You know, from my understanding, anyways. 107 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:40,733 So, like, like, you know, loading of John the Ripper or something else 108 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:43,653 is brute forcing a ton of passwords. 109 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:48,157 The report said that within the first 90 minutes of testing, 110 00:06:48,616 --> 00:06:54,789 they had cracked the passwords for 16% of the department's user accounts. 111 00:06:55,164 --> 00:06:58,209 In addition, they also said that the department had yet 112 00:06:58,209 --> 00:07:03,131 to consistently implement basic things like multi-factor authentication, 113 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:10,096 which is included in the 89% of their high value assets. 114 00:07:10,721 --> 00:07:13,099 Awesome. 115 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:18,271 They also stated that they had found that 4.75% 116 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:22,442 of all active user account passwords wait for it 117 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:26,446 were based on the word “password”. 118 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:29,782 That's the, uh. 119 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:31,576 It's rich. 120 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:34,036 They didn't even disable inactive 121 00:07:34,036 --> 00:07:38,082 or unused accounts or implement any age limits for passwords. 122 00:07:38,082 --> 00:07:44,088 In turn, this left an additional 6000 active accounts vulnerable to attack. 123 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:47,800 Those statistics definitely speak for themselves. 124 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:49,343 I mean, I remember 125 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:53,014 scrolling through the report and getting to the point where they had 126 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:56,350 like their recommendations and like, I would just wish 127 00:07:56,893 --> 00:07:59,979 it'd like just said like two words in bold. 128 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:02,899 You know, like the words “SMARTEN UP!” 129 00:08:03,024 --> 00:08:03,774 Like, yes, 130 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:05,693 I think 131 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:08,654 it would have been awesome. 132 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:10,990 You know, they would have been hilarious. 133 00:08:11,365 --> 00:08:15,745 It does beg the question, though, of like, you know, how bad the OPSEC 134 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:20,541 is of every other department and like, government agency that exists. 135 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:24,587 Anyone that's, you know, been in the hacking scene for any amount 136 00:08:24,587 --> 00:08:28,216 of time will definitely tell you that at the end of the day, 137 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:32,970 you know, we've heard tons of stories about like, you know, the 12 year old 138 00:08:32,970 --> 00:08:36,933 and the 14 year old who, you know, breaks into NASA or some other, 139 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:40,520 you know, governmental agency that's, you know, thought to be secure. 140 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,733 And like nine times out of ten, it's not, you know, we some advance zero day attack 141 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:50,655 but like instead you know with end map and some like totally new mission hack 142 00:08:50,655 --> 00:08:52,240 and like at the end of the day for 143 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,576 those of you like who aren't you know, as much of a nerd as I am 144 00:08:55,993 --> 00:08:58,788 like zero day is basically when someone discovers a vulnerability 145 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:00,456 and no one else knows about it. 146 00:09:01,499 --> 00:09:04,335 You know, when you have an exploit that can exploit 147 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:07,922 a particular vulnerable kitty, that's a zero. 148 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:10,091 It's it's that exploit. 149 00:09:10,091 --> 00:09:14,053 You know, it's like if, you know, had a card, a door, for example, 150 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:16,847 you know, use a credit card, pop your your front door. 151 00:09:17,515 --> 00:09:19,642 But like, no one else has ever heard of this 152 00:09:20,101 --> 00:09:22,728 this particular vulnerability in doors. 153 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:26,566 You you that card would be your exploit. 154 00:09:26,983 --> 00:09:27,358 Right. 155 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:30,695 And you would leverage it against, you know, that 156 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:33,823 particular vulnerability of, you know, the door anyway. 157 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:37,660 So like, you know, moving on to the next topic, I've heard a ton 158 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:41,497 of people more or less, you know, flipping out over the last couple of days, 159 00:09:41,497 --> 00:09:46,919 you know, when discussing things like ChatGPT, you know, and the 160 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:49,797 the malware that it's been writing, how many people and you know, 161 00:09:49,797 --> 00:09:52,300 the malware that it's been writing, how many people and you know, 162 00:09:52,633 --> 00:09:57,930 from my assumption, mostly the uneducated or like un indoctrinated in information 163 00:09:57,930 --> 00:10:03,436 security and cybersecurity see this as like a massive and wild threat 164 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:06,355 and you've got a ton of people who you know know better 165 00:10:06,856 --> 00:10:10,776 and they're still making a big deal out of it just because it gets views 166 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:16,073 on YouTube, you know, hysterics and and fear mongering just tends to do that. 167 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:21,454 So the reality is, at the end of the day, like anyone, including 168 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:25,333 like your average person, can go get malware 169 00:10:25,708 --> 00:10:31,213 or ransomware for that matter as a service if they know how to use Google. 170 00:10:31,213 --> 00:10:35,009 Well, I mean, it's not something that takes a whole lot 171 00:10:35,009 --> 00:10:38,554 of ingenuity or abilities at all. 172 00:10:38,763 --> 00:10:41,682 You know, the hysteria centered 173 00:10:41,682 --> 00:10:45,311 around the whole concept of people using, you know, 174 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:49,982 AI to create malware to me is just ridiculous. 175 00:10:49,982 --> 00:10:51,776 And, you know, I'll tell you why. 176 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:53,277 At the end of the day, 177 00:10:53,277 --> 00:10:58,240 CISA, 178 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,786 which stands for the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure 179 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:05,748 Security Agency, which is a it's a it's a governmental agency. 180 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:08,417 You know, I'd be like, oh, you just bash in the feds, the like. 181 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:14,256 But anyways, they they estimate that on average, something like 80% 182 00:11:14,298 --> 00:11:20,054 of malware that takes place, you know, in the K-12 educational spheres 183 00:11:20,721 --> 00:11:23,766 is done with Microsoft Excel 184 00:11:23,766 --> 00:11:29,355 macros 4.0, which by the way, came out in 92. 185 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:33,734 You know, like in other words, people are still clicking on macros, 186 00:11:33,734 --> 00:11:38,739 even though Windows is warning them that it could be extremely dangerous to do this 187 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:44,745 30 years later. 188 00:11:44,745 --> 00:11:45,996 Are you kidding me? 189 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:50,167 Like we are still having people install malware 190 00:11:50,167 --> 00:11:54,714 the way they did in the nineties and it's still working. 191 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,757 Like we don't need A.I. 192 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:00,386 to write us malware because people are still gullible 193 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,431 enough to run things that they shouldn't be running. 194 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:07,184 You know, people are still gullible enough to click on links 195 00:12:07,184 --> 00:12:11,147 that they don't know or aren't familiar with. 196 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:14,358 People are still, you know, giving away 197 00:12:14,358 --> 00:12:17,653 way too much information, you know, on the phone systems. 198 00:12:17,987 --> 00:12:23,200 So at the end of day, like, you know, none of you know, none of these things 199 00:12:23,617 --> 00:12:27,455 are things that are ever going to change, Like we can inform people. 200 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:32,126 But at the end of the day, like you never going to have 100% security, 201 00:12:33,169 --> 00:12:35,921 you know, regardless, as I've said this and, 202 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:40,509 you know, some of my videos before and, you know, it just it it doesn't exist. 203 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:44,180 It's it's again, it's like a honest politician or a sharp marble. 204 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:48,642 And so, you know, just a fairy tale. 205 00:12:48,642 --> 00:12:49,101 Okay. 206 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:52,938 So, you know, getting back to the the matter at hand, 207 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:56,108 I remember this kind of hysteria, like 208 00:12:56,108 --> 00:12:59,278 on multiple different occasions, you know? 209 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:00,321 Right. 210 00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:03,073 Like right off the bat, I remember like when SET, 211 00:13:03,324 --> 00:13:06,076 came into existence, it’s “SET”. 212 00:13:07,328 --> 00:13:09,997 And, you know, for those, you know, not well versed in information 213 00:13:09,997 --> 00:13:14,043 security or hacking, this is like an acronym for a tool 214 00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:18,214 that came out called the Social Engineering Tool Kit. 215 00:13:18,214 --> 00:13:22,551 And like, it could do a ton of, you know, different tasks and 216 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:28,307 can automate some attacks that before then, you know, they weren't 217 00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:31,352 they weren't automated like you do you to do them by hand. 218 00:13:32,353 --> 00:13:34,104 So it made it kind of streamlined 219 00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:38,275 the workflow of a penetration test or a hack. 220 00:13:38,275 --> 00:13:41,987 I just made a little bit easier. So 221 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:43,656 like when I say 222 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:46,909 it can do like a variety of tasks, it's like one of the ones that I'm 223 00:13:46,909 --> 00:13:51,747 speaking of like specifically are things like generating malicious payloads 224 00:13:51,747 --> 00:13:55,251 or doing mass nefarious emailing campaigns and it's like, 225 00:13:55,459 --> 00:13:57,044 take that out of nerd speak. 226 00:13:57,044 --> 00:14:01,006 Like you could use the social engineering toolkit to say, create 227 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,926 a virus that you can put on a DVD or CD 228 00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:08,222 or a flash drive and like, you know, when someone plugs that in, 229 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:12,434 you would then, for example, like get remote access to their computer. 230 00:14:13,394 --> 00:14:17,523 And this is like, you know, one type of attack that, 231 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:21,819 you know, you would see inside of the social engineering toolkit. 232 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:23,654 There's tons of different ones. 233 00:14:23,654 --> 00:14:27,992 I mean, that's just one is they would replicate websites almost instantly 234 00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:31,620 and like host a phishing say they used to use a 235 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:35,499 absolutely beautiful tool written by David Kennedy 236 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:39,587 and she definitely check it out a few of time anyways. 237 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:44,174 Alternatively, like I can also generate things like malicious PDFs 238 00:14:44,174 --> 00:14:47,177 that you could put into like, you know, scam emails and you know, 239 00:14:47,219 --> 00:14:50,472 you could try to get someone to open that PDF, 240 00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:53,726 you know, and if they did open it like you could infect their computer. 241 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:55,060 And you know, if you're talking 242 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:58,272 about doing this to a company, then you just bypassed 243 00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:02,359 a lot of layers of security that was very carefully laid out. 244 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:05,654 And like, this is a very generalized 245 00:15:05,654 --> 00:15:08,032 and very like dumbed down 246 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:14,997 example, but it's very simple to create these things, you know, 247 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:19,627 and put them into attacks with things like the social engineering toolkit, 248 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:22,963 you know, So basically 249 00:15:22,963 --> 00:15:27,301 all you had to do is enter in a letter or a number out of a menu, 250 00:15:27,343 --> 00:15:32,056 you know, to do a particular attack, you know, So at the end of the day, 251 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:37,311 like you could pick an attack off a menu like, you know, you're picking out 252 00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:42,107 a burger in a fast food joint, you know, then the attack would be carried out. 253 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:43,233 Exactly. 254 00:15:43,233 --> 00:15:46,695 You know, like that's how the social engineering toolkit worked 255 00:15:46,695 --> 00:15:49,782 is literally just make a selection, you know, 256 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,911 And it allowed people to easily use various tools 257 00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:57,915 and like some really bad ass frameworks like, you know, the Metasploit framework 258 00:15:57,915 --> 00:16:03,671 to easily create effective ways of, you know, red teaming or attacking. 259 00:16:04,171 --> 00:16:09,176 Obviously, like this was in like the first time this was ever done, 260 00:16:09,176 --> 00:16:12,638 but people did freak out because of how easy 261 00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:16,475 it was to be able to do these kind of things. 262 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,686 And, you know, then that makes sense. Yeah. 263 00:16:18,686 --> 00:16:22,898 Just and made it simple so that everyone could now go and create 264 00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:27,945 malicious payloads or, you know, send 500 emails to a, a Fortune 265 00:16:27,945 --> 00:16:32,116 500 company that that were all, you know, had had all this, 266 00:16:32,324 --> 00:16:36,620 you know, had like a an evil PDF in it or an evil doc in it or whatever, 267 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:40,666 you know, that was there was inside of it in order to exploit that network and, 268 00:16:40,874 --> 00:16:42,001 and to be able to connect to it. 269 00:16:43,544 --> 00:16:46,088 Then there are also people who like freaked out 270 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:49,758 when the wi fi pineapple came out and like the wifi pineapple 271 00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:52,511 did like a whole bunch of different attacks. 272 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:55,431 But, you know, the majority of them were local and, 273 00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:57,725 you know, mainly had to do with wi fi networks. 274 00:16:57,725 --> 00:16:59,643 And I love the wi fi pineapple. 275 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:01,770 I like two different iterations of it, but 276 00:17:02,938 --> 00:17:06,066 I'm not going to get too much, you know, into that if you don't know about it. 277 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:10,112 Sometimes you definitely Google to just to educate yourself. 278 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:12,906 Super powerful hacking tool, physical hacking tool 279 00:17:13,782 --> 00:17:16,118 and definitely, you know, in my opinion, worth the money. 280 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:20,039 But basically it's like, you know, when you're computer like so 281 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:24,501 you get a laptop or tab or whatever like you go and you turn that on. 282 00:17:24,501 --> 00:17:28,172 It tries to connect to like your wifi. 283 00:17:28,172 --> 00:17:32,134 I you know and this is automatically what same So it's like, you know, hop on. 284 00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:34,845 And what it does is it's like imagine 285 00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:37,431 like I'm the computer. 286 00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:42,603 I would be like, hey, you know, is Netgear521 here? 287 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:47,024 And like, if that's my home router and if my home routers in the area, 288 00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:48,192 it'll be like, yeah, I'm right here. 289 00:17:48,192 --> 00:17:49,193 Then they establish 290 00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:52,988 and they make connection and like that's more or less how it works. 291 00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:55,324 So like if you have multiple different, 292 00:17:56,158 --> 00:17:59,203 you know, wireless access points that you connect you, that's basically 293 00:17:59,203 --> 00:18:02,831 more or less and a, you know, very again, very simplified approach. 294 00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:08,170 But that's kind of how your laptop or devices connect to Wi-Fi spots. 295 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,423 And you know, they call the Wi-Fi pineapple. 296 00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:14,343 The the you know, the other term for it is the Jaseger 297 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:20,224 and it's “Jasager” is German for “yes man” for my understanding. 298 00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:23,185 So basically what that means is like when you 299 00:18:23,393 --> 00:18:27,231 when you go to connect to it, you go to connect to it and like you're on 300 00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:31,026 your laptop or whatever is like, Hey, are you X, y, z axis point? 301 00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:31,735 And the wife. 302 00:18:31,735 --> 00:18:34,488 I was like, Yes, man, you know, being connect to me. 303 00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:38,158 And there's a ton of attacks that you could actually execute 304 00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:39,993 once you get to that point. 305 00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:45,457 So it's that's, you know, one of the things that makes it a very effective tool 306 00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:48,001 that said 307 00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:51,797 my favorite tool by Hak5, and I have to throw this one out there 308 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,135 and they're not sponsoring this like I don't I don't get anything from them. 309 00:18:57,094 --> 00:19:01,056 But they're my favorite tool that they make is called the “Bashbunny”. 310 00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:05,060 And this thing is like, this is a device 311 00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:08,063 that was made and sold by hack five. 312 00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:12,609 Again, like, I'm not going to get into too much of what it does. 313 00:19:12,609 --> 00:19:16,029 It's I can literally do a four hour podcast and just this, but 314 00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:19,199 it's an extreme powerful tool. 315 00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:22,744 So like to simplify it, distill it down into like a 316 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:26,498 sense and a half, it'd be like, you know, you can essentially plug 317 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:29,918 this thing into a computer and in 7 seconds 318 00:19:30,627 --> 00:19:34,506 you can own that computer, like you can have a virus installed in that computer 319 00:19:34,923 --> 00:19:38,135 that you can use to access the computer remotely. 320 00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:40,262 Like the computer can be locked and you can still 321 00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:42,306 you can pull passwords off of it. 322 00:19:42,306 --> 00:19:44,016 It's just super powerful. 323 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,436 So people tend to freak out about, you know, 324 00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:51,481 almost any new, really interesting kind of hacking tool. 325 00:19:51,815 --> 00:19:55,611 But after you see something, you know, like that 326 00:19:55,611 --> 00:19:58,071 so often it tends to get really annoying. 327 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:03,785 And like at the end of the day, the crap code that like ChatGPT creates sucks anyways. 328 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:08,916 like I would put the odds at extremely unlikely 329 00:20:08,916 --> 00:20:12,252 that you'll see someone who doesn't know how to write code. 330 00:20:12,794 --> 00:20:18,008 You know, go in and create something that's functional right off the rip. 331 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,178 Especially like when we're discussing something is, 332 00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:26,725 you know, low level as malware or ransomware or any of that stuff. 333 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,560 Now, I know there have been articles 334 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,229 where they've talked about people have done that. 335 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:31,688 I'm not saying that they haven't. 336 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:34,691 I'm just saying that it's fairly it's going to be something that's fairly 337 00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:38,862 difficult to pull off and have it be done. 338 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:40,322 Well, now, 339 00:20:41,782 --> 00:20:44,326 again, I totally get there are articles where people have done it. 340 00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:46,411 I just I'm saying at the end of the day, 341 00:20:47,162 --> 00:20:50,374 AI writing malware is not some revolutionary thing. 342 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:51,333 You know, 343 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:56,838 in any case, like that's my $0.02 on the whole ChatGPT generating 344 00:20:56,838 --> 00:21:01,260 malware meltdown that you know, we've seen on YouTube and in a couple of articles 345 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:05,013 for the last couple of days, basically like Fear sells, you know, 346 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:06,682 and that's my big things. 347 00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:10,560 Like at the end of the day, it's like, you know, we don't need to be afraid if we 348 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,439 if we if we know, you know, I think a lot of people feed off of that. 349 00:21:14,439 --> 00:21:15,440 I see. 350 00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:16,817 I mean, I see that all the time. 351 00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:17,109 It's like, 352 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:21,363 you know, the guy trying to sell the alarm system, you know, calls you up 353 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:26,285 and and talks to you about crimes statistics and B&E’s in your area 354 00:21:26,576 --> 00:21:31,456 to, you know, try to get you to freak out and buy this product. 355 00:21:31,456 --> 00:21:33,875 And like, I mean, I love it when they when they call 356 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,086 because like I'm home all the time anyway 357 00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:38,880 and you break into my house I’m gonna be here, so you're screwed. 358 00:21:40,048 --> 00:21:41,633 Justifiable homicide laws in 359 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:44,803 Vermont are like three sentences. 360 00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:48,098 I mean, they're super lenient, so you're going to be screwed anyways. 361 00:21:49,057 --> 00:21:51,518 But, like, it's just it's. 362 00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:52,561 It's crazy, man. 363 00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:53,603 I've had them going. 364 00:21:53,603 --> 00:21:54,688 They've been like, Oh, well, you know, 365 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:56,398 they tell me about all these crime statistics. 366 00:21:56,398 --> 00:22:00,360 I'm like, Well, okay, so I pay you a monthly fee 367 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:05,532 and you know, you make sure that you know, I don't get broken into, 368 00:22:05,657 --> 00:22:09,244 but they're like, Oh yeah, Like, you know, we we will keep you safe. 369 00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:09,995 You know? 370 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:12,789 I like man, that is so reminiscent of, like, the Italian 371 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:16,585 mafia, you know, like your, you know, and be ashamed. So. 372 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:18,920 And threw a molotov cocktail through the window. 373 00:22:19,212 --> 00:22:23,216 You didn't, you know, pay us our, you know, our due that we were asking 374 00:22:23,216 --> 00:22:23,759 this month. 375 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,720 You know, I mean, it's just that's that's kind of how it rubs me. 376 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:30,807 I just I just really hate that, you know, it's like a lot of, you know, to kind of 377 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:33,727 change the topic but alot of federal prison consultants 378 00:22:34,561 --> 00:22:36,646 that are out there do the same thing where it's like, 379 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:40,275 you know, some poor bastard who decided not to pay his taxes, 70 years old 380 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:41,360 and he's getting, 381 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,987 you know, prosecuted by the federal government, the IRS, you know, 382 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:46,907 because he messed with them and wouldn't pay him because he's cheap. 383 00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:49,785 He's a millionaire. But like, he doesn’t want to pay his taxes. 384 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,746 So like, at the end of the day, they prosecute him. 385 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:57,376 And, you know, this this dude is is going to jail and he's scared to death. 386 00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:01,171 It's not like a real criminal, you guys, not a hardcore 387 00:23:01,171 --> 00:23:02,881 drug trafficker or anything like that. 388 00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:06,968 But you know, he's going to federal prison like he 389 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:11,223 he has this notion of federal prison, you know, where like, 390 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:12,182 he thinks he's going to go there 391 00:23:12,182 --> 00:23:14,309 and he's going to get raped and it's going to be like, 392 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,230 you know, dudes are, you know, stabbing each other 393 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:21,775 every day is like, this dude's going to a minimum security prison camp. 394 00:23:21,858 --> 00:23:23,068 You know, it's going to be a joke. 395 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:25,028 Like, it's 396 00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:29,074 really it's it's you know, it's it's not anything, you know, it's this. 397 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:32,160 And we're not talking about a medium or a United States penitentiary 398 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,663 or high security facility or even a medium security facility 399 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:38,917 joking about a day care more or less, you know, I mean, you know, fights and stuff. 400 00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:40,961 And and those places. 401 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:45,132 But it's not you know, no one's no one's near the riots. 402 00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:48,051 You know, people aren't cutting each other's heads off with dental floss. 403 00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:51,138 I mean, like it's is, you know, but 404 00:23:51,138 --> 00:23:55,350 but you have these guys who kind of sell that image to these these dudes, 405 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:58,353 and they will get, you know, 20,000, 50,000, 406 00:23:58,353 --> 00:24:00,397 $100,000 out of them 407 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:04,693 through fear mongering, through just scaring the crap out of them 408 00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:09,948 or allowing society's ideas of war prisoner to do that to him. 409 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:14,286 And these guys prey on on those kind of be one anyways like I started, 410 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,080 you know, being in federal prison and so on because they basically wanted to 411 00:24:17,622 --> 00:24:21,626 kill the business that they were doing, you know, the money they were making 412 00:24:21,918 --> 00:24:24,463 from extorting people and like, I just don't have the time for it. 413 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:28,383 You know, I'm too busy making YouTube videos about the Darknet and, 414 00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,679 you know, do trying to build a master class on it and writing books about, 415 00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:34,264 you know, how to use off out of prison. 416 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:36,933 And like, I just don't I just didn't have the time for it. 417 00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:41,480 So, like, you know, one of my future projects is going to be essentially 418 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,733 going in and 419 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,863 gathering up everything I know, everything I can find 420 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:54,784 and putting it all together to create 421 00:24:54,784 --> 00:25:00,540 a, you know, kind of a master section where I have, 422 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:04,836 you know, all of this data broken down and organized. 423 00:25:05,128 --> 00:25:08,965 And that person who wants to know, you know, what's federal prison 424 00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:10,008 going to be like for me? 425 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:12,093 Where what's my security level going to be? 426 00:25:12,093 --> 00:25:14,346 You know, how does this work? How's that work? 427 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:17,974 That person can in turn, go there and find 428 00:25:17,974 --> 00:25:20,060 literally any answer that they're looking for. 429 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:24,314 And this completely robs the, 430 00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:27,567 you know, for profit federal prison consultants 431 00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,654 that extort people with fear 432 00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:33,823 out of their their ability to do that, you know, But like, that's 433 00:25:33,823 --> 00:25:38,787 where I originally I was going to that's where doing fed time exists originally. 434 00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:41,039 But like as I started to get like, I started off like, oh, 435 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,959 I'm just going to do I'm going to cancel, but I'm going to cancel way cheaper. 436 00:25:44,251 --> 00:25:45,835 And I'm just like, Man, I have time for that. 437 00:25:45,835 --> 00:25:47,921 Like, I'm better off just creating a nonprofit 438 00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:52,759 and putting all the information together and putting it up like that 439 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,304 and just trying to take these guys out of business that way. 440 00:25:56,388 --> 00:26:00,350 You know, it's just one of the things I'm also, you know, going back and forth, 441 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:01,560 that’s one of my side projects. 442 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,812 Anyways, I digress. 443 00:26:04,187 --> 00:26:08,316 Let's move on to the next thing. 444 00:26:08,316 --> 00:26:11,319 So several news outlets are reporting that San 445 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,323 Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit or BART 446 00:26:15,323 --> 00:26:19,786 police files have been hacked and released on to the darknet. 447 00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:22,914 A reputable and well-established ransomware group, 448 00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:26,167 Vice Society is claiming responsibility for the hack. 449 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:30,505 The group's goal is to exchange the stolen data for ransom payments 450 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:34,759 by breaking into hospitals schools like other institutions, 451 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:38,138 according to NBC News, the hack includes 452 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:41,891 120,000 internal BART files, 453 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:44,894 largely likely those of human 454 00:26:44,894 --> 00:26:47,897 resources department and quote, 455 00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:51,776 containing specific complaints of child abuse, unquote. 456 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:55,739 The data also includes email addresses, passwords, 457 00:26:55,780 --> 00:27:02,203 names, driver's licenses of various BART contractors, hiring documentation 458 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:07,917 for BART police applicants and mental health records for officers submitted 459 00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:11,880 for mental health exams, which no doubt is probably 460 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,091 thousands of pages long. 461 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:19,596 Obviously, Bart thought it wouldn't be a good idea to pay the ransom. 462 00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:23,016 You know, considering the fact that they're online now. 463 00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:23,141 You know, considering the fact that they're online now. 464 00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:27,687 Now, you know, at the same time, Bart is, you know, claiming that the, 465 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:32,233 you know, hack won't have any kind of impact on ridership, but, 466 00:27:32,233 --> 00:27:36,821 you know, by doing that, they, you know, are admitting that it did happen. 467 00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:41,451 So, you know, to be clear, neither the internal business systems 468 00:27:41,451 --> 00:27:44,329 nor Bard services have been harmed. 469 00:27:44,537 --> 00:27:48,416 According to Alicia Trust, a BART spokesman, 470 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:52,003 which, you know, we absolutely know 471 00:27:53,129 --> 00:27:57,676 that the spokesperson never lies. 472 00:27:57,717 --> 00:28:01,638 You know, they are always 1,000% 473 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,977 is absolute joke. 474 00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:11,981 However, the hack appears to be more serious than the 2011 475 00:28:12,148 --> 00:28:15,026 BART Police Officers Association breach 476 00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:18,405 by hackers associated with Anonymous. 477 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:22,242 More than 100 officers email addresses, passwords 478 00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:26,579 and personal information were exposed in that 2011 attack. 479 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,374 Suppose, BART Police have even issued 480 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,085 a citation against you for a crime. 481 00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:35,880 In that case, there is probably such information 482 00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,466 among the data that was released. 483 00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:43,513 Additionally, at least six scanned unredacted reports 484 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:48,435 outlining suspected child abuse were among the files, which includes 485 00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:53,106 the names and birthdates of the children who are in danger 486 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:58,319 and as well as descriptions of the adults who, again, 487 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:03,241 absolutely outstanding in OPSEC, you know, by our government, 488 00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:05,493 whether it's federal or local, 489 00:29:05,493 --> 00:29:09,038 these guys, you know, they absolutely lead by example. 490 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:13,626 You know, really great OPSEC guys, you know, keep up the great work. 491 00:29:13,626 --> 00:29:17,714 You know, by the way, this agency is comprised of like 300 people. 492 00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:22,594 So from my understanding, like 200 of them are actually cops 493 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:25,847 in, you know, in terms of being like sworn law enforcement. 494 00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:30,226 So with that said, you know, it's like 495 00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:34,481 at the end of the day, 496 00:29:34,481 --> 00:29:39,778 like on BART.Gov, they say that they're hiring and offering 497 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,864 like $15,000 sign on bonuses, 498 00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:45,992 which is absolutely insane. 499 00:29:45,992 --> 00:29:51,164 You know, instead of hiring more transit cops to issue tickets and, 500 00:29:51,372 --> 00:29:55,251 you know, extort the public, you know, maybe they should hire an I.T. 501 00:29:55,251 --> 00:29:57,879 guy or ten, you know, considering that 502 00:29:58,379 --> 00:30:03,134 they had a $2.4 billion budget get passed in 2020, 503 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:05,804 according to the Bay Area NBC News coverage, 504 00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:09,682 you know, you would think that they could afford to keep the identities of kids 505 00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:12,936 and, you know, other victims safe at the very least. 506 00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:18,024 And never mind what they're charging people on a regular basis for, 507 00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:21,903 you know, whatever fines they're issuing to various 508 00:30:21,903 --> 00:30:25,323 individuals, you know, they you know, who cares about that? 509 00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,451 Like, you know, let the San Francisco PD, you know, start 510 00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:31,454 killing people with robots. Like, yeah, it's a real thing. 511 00:30:31,454 --> 00:30:32,622 By the way. Go ahead and Google it. 512 00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:34,541 Like, this is 513 00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:37,836 why I'm glad that I live in Vermont sometimes. 514 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,381 You know, it's very it's sad, like what's going on across the country. 515 00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:45,218 But at the end of the day, like, definitely And like that said, you know, 516 00:30:45,218 --> 00:30:47,470 we definitely have our own problems up here, too. 517 00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:52,392 But, you know, it just doesn't seem as drastic or, 518 00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:54,811 you know, as crazy as like, you know, some of the stuff 519 00:30:54,811 --> 00:30:56,855 that's going on in the rest of the country. 520 00:30:56,855 --> 00:31:01,150 So, for example, like I remember a story about this guy, 521 00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,445 I always thought he was a farmer who was getting his house taken. 522 00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:07,782 But like in doing my research, like, I ended up 523 00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:11,286 finding out that it was just like a dude, like this dude guy. 524 00:31:11,327 --> 00:31:15,123 So he gets arrested for cannabis, like, yeah, like some, 525 00:31:15,164 --> 00:31:18,251 you know, you get some cannabis smoking a blunt or whatever. 526 00:31:19,168 --> 00:31:23,047 Dudes name is Roger Pinon, 527 00:31:23,464 --> 00:31:27,093 and it's all, it's all public information, not, you know, dropping anyone's name. 528 00:31:28,928 --> 00:31:30,847 So this guy, 529 00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:33,641 you know, gets arrested for, for weed, right? 530 00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:35,351 But he's mad about it. 531 00:31:35,351 --> 00:31:40,732 You know, he's, he's mad that the, you know, the cops arrested him for cannabis. 532 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:41,941 Now, I don't blame them. 533 00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:46,821 You know, ethically, I would be too morally, 534 00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:49,741 you know, it's a nonviolent crime. 535 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:51,159 You get arrested for it. 536 00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:53,494 Totally can relate on that level. 537 00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:56,706 But so you are arrested for it. 538 00:31:56,706 --> 00:32:00,126 And like his reaction 539 00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:02,378 might have been a little bit over the top. 540 00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:07,175 So, like, you know, what Roger decided to do 541 00:32:08,217 --> 00:32:10,386 was to turn around 542 00:32:10,511 --> 00:32:13,556 and, you know, take a tractor 543 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:17,477 and drive it down to the police station, you know, and be like, oh, 544 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:17,977 what's wrong with that? 545 00:32:17,977 --> 00:32:19,354 And not only was there, 546 00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:24,192 well, then he ran over all of the cruisers 547 00:32:25,234 --> 00:32:26,611 in the parking lot. 548 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:27,028 in the parking lot. 549 00:32:27,028 --> 00:32:30,782 Now, like, I don't know the exact number of cop cars 550 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:34,619 that this guy ran over with his tractor. 551 00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,621 But it wasn't it was like it was 552 00:32:37,997 --> 00:32:41,584 wasn't more than 20 and it wasn't less than four. 553 00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:44,212 You know, says a good amount. 554 00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:48,216 I mean, like, dude, like you're you're you're hosting a friggin monster 555 00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:51,552 truck rally in the back of a police station. 556 00:32:51,552 --> 00:32:54,097 Right? And you're crushing these cars with a tractor? 557 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:55,390 Now, the monster truck 558 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:59,102 that can, you know, at least go like, you know, whatever, 50 or whatever. 559 00:32:59,102 --> 00:33:00,395 Yeah, I don't know. 560 00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:03,439 I'm assuming a monster truck drives faster than a tractor. 561 00:33:03,439 --> 00:33:05,858 I've never driven either, but it's an assumption. 562 00:33:05,858 --> 00:33:09,487 So anyways, like, none of these morons put this together, 563 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:13,574 you know, like this guy is out there crushing all of their vehicles 564 00:33:13,574 --> 00:33:17,578 with his tractor and these idiots just totally oblivious, 565 00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:20,289 which is actually a quote 566 00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:23,084 by the chief deputy, Phillip Brooks, who says, 567 00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,130 We came out and sure enough, there was someone 568 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:30,133 who had run over our cruisers with a tractor. 569 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:34,095 But he can't make this shit up. 570 00:33:34,095 --> 00:33:36,347 Yeah, So? 571 00:33:36,764 --> 00:33:41,227 So is not only were there roofs and hoods caved in, 572 00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:44,313 but the radios were ruined. 573 00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:48,067 The radar detectors, the cages in the cars. 574 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:52,780 We're going to have to get the jaws of life up here to pry the trunks 575 00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:57,994 open to see about the rifles and shotgun, said Sheriff Kirk Martin. 576 00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:03,374 The so, like, you know, they take this guy, you know, 577 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:07,336 and he is just build something like 50 grand or whatever. 578 00:34:07,503 --> 00:34:09,714 they throw him in county and he is pissed 579 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:13,092 like they end up he pleads insanity 580 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:18,431 and they end up referring to like a mental hospital. 581 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:20,224 And then they're like, oh, he's competent. 582 00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:22,477 You know, he's competent to stand trial for what he did. 583 00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:27,315 So he gets in front and like, they, they they're like, Oh, yeah, we're not going to 584 00:34:27,315 --> 00:34:30,068 we're not going to pursue this like this is like this dude 585 00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:34,572 became like a rock star, you know, in Vermont anyways. 586 00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:38,993 But like, he made national news, you know, And it was like this big thing of, like, 587 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:39,619 you know, 588 00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:44,540 I originally thought the story was they use a farmer and they took his house 589 00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,252 and, you know, he lost his house, he flipped out 590 00:34:48,252 --> 00:34:52,090 and he ran over all these cop cars and, you know, like that. 591 00:34:52,131 --> 00:34:53,257 But that was in the cameras. 592 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:54,300 It must've been a different story. 593 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,511 But it was just like it was. It was. 594 00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:59,514 I got this story so mixed up and I just really blew my mind. 595 00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:02,683 So I was doing my research for this podcast cause I don't want to put out 596 00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:05,353 false information out there. I only want to put out the truth. 597 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:08,064 And in order to do that, I utilize documented stuff so like, 598 00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:09,816 you know, but I could have sworn when I 599 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:13,152 when I had originally heard the story, it was like he had lost his house. 600 00:35:13,319 --> 00:35:14,987 The bank was taking his house. 601 00:35:14,987 --> 00:35:18,741 He freaked out, ran over these cruisers, then they arrested him. 602 00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:22,703 And then I like I remember reading about this dude, 603 00:35:22,703 --> 00:35:26,040 like getting his bail set and like, the community raised his bail. 604 00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:29,377 They got him out and the bank forgave the note. 605 00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:33,214 And I'm just like, I just don't remember, 606 00:35:34,423 --> 00:35:36,968 like, what the hell? 607 00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:38,719 Like news story that was. 608 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,555 I was trying to find that one. 609 00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:42,306 So if anyone knows, like, definitely let me know. 610 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:45,351 But like, I just couldn't put my finger on it. 611 00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:48,271 But only in Vermont, you know, like the. 612 00:35:48,312 --> 00:35:49,897 How awesome is that? You know? 613 00:35:49,897 --> 00:35:53,901 But like, in this case, like I said, they they didn't end up prosecuting him, 614 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:55,778 which again, I thought was awesome. 615 00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:59,240 You know, that they're like, oh, he caused a quarter million dollars in damage. 616 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,077 I'm like, dude, it's like, you know, it's like it's like six, you know, shitty 617 00:36:03,077 --> 00:36:06,831 ass Fords, you know, or whatever that he ran over. 618 00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:10,084 I mean, surely the cages and, you know, the aftermarket 619 00:36:10,084 --> 00:36:13,087 stuff and, you know, maybe the shock or two. 620 00:36:13,087 --> 00:36:16,257 But like at the end of the day, man, I just went from like a quarter 621 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:20,636 a million like 250,000 to 300,000. 622 00:36:20,636 --> 00:36:22,722 And like, it just you know, they just love 623 00:36:22,722 --> 00:36:25,975 they love that, you know, they love blowing your way out of proportion. 624 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:30,688 And judge makes me a really good, you know, kind of a news story that way. 625 00:36:31,147 --> 00:36:35,234 But anyways, I'm just jabbering on now, so 626 00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:36,569 I had a 627 00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:39,363 great time hosting this podcast, the second podcast. 628 00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:41,741 I hope you guys also enjoyed it. 629 00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:45,244 And again, dying to know what you think. 630 00:36:45,244 --> 00:36:49,040 So if you guys can, you know, hop on YouTube, if you're listening 631 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,755 to this, you know, on Amazon or on Spotify or on any of those other outlets 632 00:36:55,755 --> 00:36:58,591 where this podcast is hosted and there's a ton of them, 633 00:37:00,551 --> 00:37:03,095 definitely if you can, you know, make it to YouTube, 634 00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:09,101 go on to doing third time that channel and go to the playlist with the podcast 635 00:37:09,101 --> 00:37:13,105 and find this episode and, you know, leave a comment, let me know what you thought. 636 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,234 I look forward to reading them and I do try to respond 637 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,194 to almost every comment that I get. 638 00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:23,199 So with that, yeah, stay safe, stay healthy, stay free.