1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,309 Hello and welcome to Darknet Demystified. 2 00:00:09,743 --> 00:00:12,779 This is our first podcast, first episode. 3 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:16,683 I created this podcast because I had a ton of people 4 00:00:16,683 --> 00:00:19,152 who asked for it, so 5 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:22,022 I might as well make it. 6 00:00:22,188 --> 00:00:23,890 My name Sam Bent. 7 00:00:23,890 --> 00:00:26,993 My alias online was 2happytimes2, 8 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:31,664 and Killab and a bunch of other aliases too. 9 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:33,833 I was a previous darknet Vendor 10 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:37,470 market admin paralegal, 11 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:41,441 an author, a hacker, a nerd, a pirate, and a agorist. 12 00:00:41,474 --> 00:00:46,980 And among many other things that I call myself and other people. 13 00:00:47,147 --> 00:00:48,581 And they tend to call me. 14 00:00:49,649 --> 00:00:52,719 In this podcast, I'm going to be discussing 15 00:00:53,153 --> 00:00:55,722 a ton of different stuff, like the Darknet. 16 00:00:56,056 --> 00:01:00,193 Operational security and other kind of random 17 00:01:00,193 --> 00:01:03,063 and interesting tidbits of information that 18 00:01:04,330 --> 00:01:07,500 I find and learn about as time goes on. 19 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:11,004 And I hope that you'll be there on that journey with me today. 20 00:01:11,104 --> 00:01:14,641 Some of the topics that I'm going to be covering are address 21 00:01:14,641 --> 00:01:17,677 poisoning I2P's New Update. 22 00:01:18,711 --> 00:01:19,712 And lastly, I'll be 23 00:01:19,712 --> 00:01:21,915 talking about how Larry Harman 24 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:27,587 was the creator of Grams, which is a dark web 25 00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:30,757 search engine and Helix, which is a Bitcoin tumbler, 26 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:34,527 which is completely useless, basically. 27 00:01:34,527 --> 00:01:36,162 His brother ended up stealing 28 00:01:36,162 --> 00:01:39,065 a bunch of Bitcoin, which we'll get into last now. 29 00:01:39,165 --> 00:01:42,836 That said, I'm pretty excited to be doing this podcast. 30 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:47,707 It's the first episode I'm going to be posting this first and foremost on YouTube 31 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:52,145 on my channel that's on there, which is called DoingFedTime. 32 00:01:52,712 --> 00:01:57,317 All one word majority of the stuff on there is stuff that relates to, 33 00:01:58,051 --> 00:02:00,920 you know, cryptocurrencies, mainly Darknet 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,523 markets and federal prison, 35 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:06,659 which is I know a super eclectic mix 36 00:02:06,993 --> 00:02:10,330 of different things, but that's what's there. 37 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:14,634 If when you're listening to this podcast, you're like, Oh, it's you know, 38 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:18,571 the audio is not perfect and you know, you kind of jumps around. 39 00:02:18,738 --> 00:02:20,306 You're absolutely right. 40 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:24,177 At the end of the day, it's literally just me producing this. 41 00:02:24,177 --> 00:02:28,781 And at the same time that I'm producing this, I'm also making YouTube videos 42 00:02:28,781 --> 00:02:33,153 and writing books and, you know, doing a regular 9 to 5 job. 43 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:36,756 And so, like, you know, it's definitely a ton of stuff. 44 00:02:36,756 --> 00:02:37,624 And, you know, 45 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:41,227 if you guys have any constructive criticism, I'm definitely open to it. 46 00:02:41,694 --> 00:02:46,666 I'm always looking to improve, but that said, let's get on with the main event, 47 00:02:46,866 --> 00:02:50,670 which is going to be, you know, the topics that we're covering today. 48 00:02:50,937 --> 00:02:53,506 This first episode is going to be super short. 49 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:57,877 Just because I'm dipping my toes into the water and, you know, 50 00:02:57,877 --> 00:03:01,347 getting familiar with the software that I'm using and all that kind of stuff. 51 00:03:01,347 --> 00:03:05,318 So I really appreciate you guys muscling through it with me and, 52 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:08,388 you know, giving me any feedback that you might find 53 00:03:09,422 --> 00:03:12,091 time to be helpful or insightful. 54 00:03:12,325 --> 00:03:14,294 I'm definitely open to hearing from you guys. 55 00:03:14,294 --> 00:03:18,765 All of my social media contact information is right there on YouTube. 56 00:03:19,132 --> 00:03:21,901 My show on Twitter @doingfedtime 57 00:03:22,435 --> 00:03:23,303 So well. 58 00:03:23,303 --> 00:03:28,808 That said, let's get into the actual news. 59 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,682 There's a company called Metamask, 60 00:03:35,682 --> 00:03:39,452 which is basically a crypto wallet provider that's, you know, warning 61 00:03:39,452 --> 00:03:42,922 its users of a new scam that's called address poisoning. 62 00:03:43,489 --> 00:03:48,328 This basically tricks users into sending funds to a scammer 63 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:51,598 instead of the like, the intended person that they want it to be. 64 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:55,535 Send to the scam where it's basically by poisoning the wallets. 65 00:03:55,535 --> 00:03:58,938 Transaction history with that person 66 00:03:58,938 --> 00:04:03,076 or that scammers address that look similar 67 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:07,080 to the address of the person who's going to get scammed. 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,915 Recent transactions actions. 69 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:13,152 So to prevent this, basically the company Metamask recommends 70 00:04:13,152 --> 00:04:18,024 that users be diligent when copying addresses and to make 71 00:04:18,057 --> 00:04:23,596 use of their built in address book feature to save known or valid addresses. 72 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:29,702 They also suggest searching for a known valid transaction and grabbing 73 00:04:29,702 --> 00:04:32,839 the full address from the blockchain explorer 74 00:04:33,206 --> 00:04:35,208 like Etherscan. 75 00:04:35,975 --> 00:04:40,113 However, as Etherium addresses are very long and may cause some issues 76 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:43,716 in the user interface design, this is a lot 77 00:04:43,716 --> 00:04:46,552 like when we see a darknet. 78 00:04:47,253 --> 00:04:51,724 You know, go down or we see someone who loses their bookmarks 79 00:04:51,724 --> 00:04:53,159 or we see someone who, 80 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:58,064 you know, installs the Tor browser and they don't have any bookmarks 81 00:04:58,064 --> 00:05:02,168 and they didn't export them and save them, or there are a new system or whatever, 82 00:05:02,168 --> 00:05:06,706 and they kind of just like hop on Reddit and find a random user 83 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:11,744 who's like, Oh, hey, you know, X, Y, z, market, and here's the dot onion for it. 84 00:05:11,744 --> 00:05:15,515 And they just kind of randomly go to that. 85 00:05:15,848 --> 00:05:17,483 You know, they get phished. 86 00:05:18,818 --> 00:05:19,519 I think they 87 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:22,422 you know, we see a lot of throughout the history of 88 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:27,093 cybersecurity, we've seen a lot of those kind of things 89 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:31,097 where it's like an old scams that's just renewed and refreshed 90 00:05:31,097 --> 00:05:34,267 and put into a new kind of context, 91 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,470 which, you know, then it works. 92 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:39,405 You know, it works like if you have, 93 00:05:39,405 --> 00:05:43,876 you know, the reason why a lot of scammers use these old kind of scams 94 00:05:43,876 --> 00:05:48,014 is because at the end of the day, they're predictable and they work. 95 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:51,718 And that's just it's something that it's interesting to see. 96 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:54,987 Like when I had originally checked out the article 97 00:05:56,222 --> 00:05:59,158 on address poisoning, you know, I'm thinking, you know, 98 00:05:59,158 --> 00:06:02,161 like arp poisoning, you know, I'm thinking 99 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:05,331 something way kind of cooler. 100 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:09,335 I guess the the this is going to be this lame, but it was 101 00:06:09,335 --> 00:06:10,603 yeah, it is pretty lame. 102 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:14,240 It's basically like, you know, don't get phished, you know, smarten up. 103 00:06:14,741 --> 00:06:19,379 So that was that was definitely interesting. 104 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:24,217 Building a lot of those out there, you know, kind of look forward to updates. 105 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:27,920 I remember back when I used to run backtrack 106 00:06:28,621 --> 00:06:34,460 just like the predecessor to kali linux, which is a hacking operating system. 107 00:06:34,761 --> 00:06:38,898 I would love seeing the updates that came through, seeing the version, 108 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:42,902 the new version numbers or, you know, if you're really lucky, the new software 109 00:06:43,503 --> 00:06:47,874 that you know was created that you were grabbing that was fresh out. 110 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:50,943 I always like seeing those kind of updates because I knew 111 00:06:50,943 --> 00:06:54,080 that it was going to enable me to do more kind of stuff. 112 00:06:54,113 --> 00:06:58,050 Like George Washington said that, you know, totally 113 00:06:58,050 --> 00:07:01,087 just kind of off the top of the head, so if I 114 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:02,522 Screw this quote up just 115 00:07:02,522 --> 00:07:05,391 know, that's this is not verbatim 116 00:07:07,293 --> 00:07:09,228 that at the end of the day, 117 00:07:09,228 --> 00:07:12,632 if he had 4 hours to cut down a cherry tree, 118 00:07:12,665 --> 00:07:16,402 he would spend the first three sharpening his blade, basically 119 00:07:16,402 --> 00:07:20,106 speaking to, you know, being prepared and being being ready. 120 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,643 And, you know, the great thing about that kind of thing 121 00:07:23,743 --> 00:07:27,213 is that at the end of the day with us nowadays with things like, 122 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:30,983 you know, updates on various things, a lot of the times it gives us 123 00:07:30,983 --> 00:07:35,655 additional functionality or makes things a little bit smoother. 124 00:07:35,755 --> 00:07:39,692 You know, And I think this latest update of I2P 125 00:07:39,692 --> 00:07:44,697 Easy install bundle, which is like version 2.1.0. 126 00:07:44,697 --> 00:07:49,168 I think basically includes updates to the I2P router, 127 00:07:49,168 --> 00:07:52,772 which improves things like performance connectivity 128 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:55,908 and secures, you know, long term 129 00:07:55,908 --> 00:07:58,744 health of the I2P network in general. 130 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:05,351 The release also includes improvements to the browser profile launcher, compatible 131 00:08:05,651 --> 00:08:08,488 with the TOR browser bundle and updates 132 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:12,692 to Firefox profile and extensions and updates 133 00:08:13,025 --> 00:08:15,862 throughout the code base and deployment process 134 00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:19,632 in general, however, users are advised 135 00:08:19,665 --> 00:08:23,836 to verify the check some of the installer before using it 136 00:08:24,237 --> 00:08:27,807 as the release is an unsigned exe installer, 137 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:32,612 but the updates are signed and safe and you know more details. 138 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:36,782 You can go to I2p's blog at 139 00:08:36,816 --> 00:08:40,119 geti2p.net 140 00:08:40,119 --> 00:08:42,321 Talking about, you know, I2P. 141 00:08:42,788 --> 00:08:46,559 One thing I did want to point out is that I actually have on that YouTube 142 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,663 channel a new video coming out that is all about the differences 143 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:53,132 between Tor and I2P. 144 00:08:53,966 --> 00:08:59,972 The following for Tor is massive in comparison to I2P, 145 00:09:00,172 --> 00:09:04,477 but the structure of both of them, whether you're talking about, 146 00:09:04,477 --> 00:09:08,915 you know, how things are routed, where like you know, Tor uses 147 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:12,451 onion routing and I2P uses garlic routing 148 00:09:12,752 --> 00:09:17,423 like the structure and how everything kind of is between the two. 149 00:09:17,423 --> 00:09:20,860 When you compare them is really interesting because there are 150 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:24,564 a lot of differences between the two and, you know, 151 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:29,669 the video that will be coming out either today or tomorrow on my YouTube channel 152 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:32,905 will point out those differences and it's 153 00:09:32,905 --> 00:09:36,642 meant to encompass like every difference. 154 00:09:36,642 --> 00:09:41,948 So they could possibly we think of or find when comparing the two, 155 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:45,718 it's meant to be, you know, pretty verbose and detailed. 156 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:48,721 That said, obviously I'm not perfect. 157 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:50,923 I probably missed a whole bunch of them 158 00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:54,493 if I did go ahead and yell at me in the comment section in that video. 159 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:58,197 And you know, I'll definitely make an amended version at some point. 160 00:09:59,298 --> 00:10:00,566 But that said, 161 00:10:00,566 --> 00:10:05,137 that video is definitely worth checking out and learning about I2P 162 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:09,108 as I've kind of taken this journey where, you know, we're seeing 163 00:10:09,842 --> 00:10:13,346 the Tor browser and Tor in general, 164 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:17,483 the tor project kind of get hammered by DoS 165 00:10:17,483 --> 00:10:21,287 and DDoS attacks where, you know, it's getting to a point where 166 00:10:21,721 --> 00:10:23,956 a lot of the sites just aren't usable, 167 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:26,425 which is really, really, really sad and unfortunate. 168 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:30,630 But you have this natural evolutionary shift 169 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,900 where at the end of the day, when one technology doesn't work, 170 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:38,671 we're going to evolve, you know, as a species 171 00:10:38,671 --> 00:10:42,575 we naturally evolve, but as people that, you know, 172 00:10:43,075 --> 00:10:46,846 want to be able to have freedom, we have a lot of different options. 173 00:10:46,846 --> 00:10:51,283 You know, there are actually a lot of different darknets that are out there. 174 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:55,287 Tor is not the only network or, you know, 175 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:59,191 overlay network that has a darknet. 176 00:10:59,892 --> 00:11:02,061 You know, I2P does too. 177 00:11:02,061 --> 00:11:04,764 And that's why, you know, you irregardless 178 00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:07,166 of what we think about the website, 179 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,002 you know, the Alphabay admin 180 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:15,608 for example, is names eluding me right now, but 181 00:11:16,175 --> 00:11:17,910 which is not a bad there's a great thing you know 182 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:20,880 kind of a side topic is at the end of the day, 183 00:11:20,913 --> 00:11:26,352 you know, dealing with the guy who, you know, has a horrible memory 184 00:11:27,353 --> 00:11:28,354 or really remember names. 185 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:31,624 I was great for any coconspirators that I have 186 00:11:33,659 --> 00:11:34,960 that said 187 00:11:35,728 --> 00:11:38,564 he had advised, you know, the use of I2P, 188 00:11:39,131 --> 00:11:42,601 the current Alphabay Darknet admin. 189 00:11:42,968 --> 00:11:45,271 And I think that's, 190 00:11:45,271 --> 00:11:47,373 you know, very interesting and it's very telling 191 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,477 that we may be looking at this paradigm 192 00:11:51,477 --> 00:11:54,780 shift where a lot of the Darknet users 193 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:57,750 that use the the Darknt on tor 194 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:00,953 are going to start evolving 195 00:12:00,953 --> 00:12:05,725 and maybe switching over to something like I2P, 196 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:10,396 which would be really interesting and I think might actually be better 197 00:12:10,863 --> 00:12:15,134 at the end of the day, because I2P, from my understanding, 198 00:12:15,134 --> 00:12:18,938 is a lot better at things like, you know, keeping a server secure 199 00:12:18,938 --> 00:12:22,842 and there's a little bit less latency because it's a peer to peer network. 200 00:12:23,943 --> 00:12:28,114 And in order to do some of the attacks 201 00:12:28,114 --> 00:12:33,018 that we see in Tor all the time, you have to compromise like twice 202 00:12:33,018 --> 00:12:38,190 as many nodes or, you know, they call them routers in I2P 203 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:43,763 that you would need to in Tor, which again, that's pretty awesome. 204 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:46,999 That added security. 205 00:12:46,999 --> 00:12:50,770 And like, you know, with Tor they have like a centralized list of nodes 206 00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:52,071 or directory. 207 00:12:52,071 --> 00:12:53,773 Centralized directory, I'm sorry. 208 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:56,842 And you know, with I2P it's all decentralized. 209 00:12:56,842 --> 00:12:59,845 So I think there's a lot more resiliency 210 00:13:00,045 --> 00:13:03,182 in that network as well as, you know, less latency. 211 00:13:03,582 --> 00:13:07,019 And I think that might be where, you know, the kind of 212 00:13:07,019 --> 00:13:10,322 the Darknet community might be headed over a long period of time. 213 00:13:10,856 --> 00:13:12,658 Again, I'm a you know, I'm not an expert. 214 00:13:12,658 --> 00:13:15,628 I was just a I was a Darknet vendor and Darknet market admin, 215 00:13:16,195 --> 00:13:19,231 but I'm definitely not like one of these high end IT 216 00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:23,402 super dudes who like, you know, their study and assembly and, 217 00:13:23,702 --> 00:13:27,339 and you know, they're writing, you know, their own patches for, 218 00:13:27,339 --> 00:13:31,310 you know, BSD and this is definitely not me. 219 00:13:32,745 --> 00:13:34,613 But that said, 220 00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:37,449 the last story that we had to cover 221 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:41,120 is basically about a guy from Ohio. 222 00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:46,525 And you know, our story starts with that name, Gary James Garment. 223 00:13:46,692 --> 00:13:51,096 And, you know, this guy pled guilty to stealing cryptocurrency 224 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:57,870 by accessing and taking over 712 Bitcoin from a hardware wallet 225 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,272 that was seized from his brother, 226 00:14:01,173 --> 00:14:04,276 who's Larry Dean Harmond by the feds. 227 00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:09,448 So, you know, the feds go and they seized this wallet and they have the wallet. 228 00:14:09,448 --> 00:14:12,418 And you know, this guy, Gary, 229 00:14:12,418 --> 00:14:16,155 And you know, he goes and accesses. 230 00:14:16,155 --> 00:14:20,559 So, you know, Larry was the creator and administrator 231 00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:25,264 of the now down and dead Grams Darkweb search engine, 232 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:29,168 which you could basically put in like, you know, "cocaine". 233 00:14:29,168 --> 00:14:34,106 And it would search every darknet market, you know, for that specific keywords 234 00:14:34,106 --> 00:14:37,076 you could do with vendors, you could do with any kind of stuff. 235 00:14:37,676 --> 00:14:40,713 And it would instantly search all these different sites and kind of 236 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:45,484 bring you back very specific and detailed information or show you listings 237 00:14:46,118 --> 00:14:47,586 for that particular product 238 00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:50,689 or Darknet vendor, or group or whatever it is that you were looking for. 239 00:14:51,523 --> 00:14:55,527 And Helix and Helix was like a Bitcoin tumbler 240 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:59,632 that ran from 2014 to 2017, 241 00:15:00,599 --> 00:15:01,200 which, you 242 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,236 know, in my opinion is is a total waste of time. 243 00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:07,640 It's total trash, like at the end of the day, 244 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:12,878 laundering money by using a Bitcoin tumblers is moronic at best. 245 00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:16,849 It was a really, really big thing when I was Darknet 246 00:15:16,882 --> 00:15:21,153 vendor and a dark market admin and I just never really saw the appeal to it. 247 00:15:22,054 --> 00:15:26,225 I actually have on my left wrist, I have Monero symbol 248 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:29,228 and a bitcoin symbol tattooed on to my wrist 249 00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:33,565 and a bunch of other kind of, you know, tattoos that are like that. 250 00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:37,903 But those those tattoos are basically the symbol of like, 251 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:39,338 you know, money laundering. 252 00:15:39,338 --> 00:15:42,408 Like, you know, if you have Bitcoin or you're doing something illegal 253 00:15:42,408 --> 00:15:45,811 with Bitcoin, swapping it out into Monroe and swapping it back 254 00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:49,949 is pretty much the equivalent of like robbing a bank, 255 00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:51,517 taking the 256 00:15:51,517 --> 00:15:54,987 money you get from the bank, buying, you know, 257 00:15:55,454 --> 00:15:58,824 a bunch of weed selling that weed for cash. 258 00:15:58,824 --> 00:16:03,062 And now the cash that you have as totally different serial numbers 259 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:06,131 than the cash that you got from the bank. 260 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:09,001 You know, it's like cleaning your money and, you know, at the same time 261 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:11,337 selling that weed, you might actually net a profit. 262 00:16:12,237 --> 00:16:14,540 So, you know, switching, switching obviously 263 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:18,043 from one crypto to another, you're not really going to net a profitable. 264 00:16:18,043 --> 00:16:21,880 My point is, at the end of the day, the small fee 265 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,050 that they're going to charge you to switch from one currency to another 266 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:30,489 is nothing in comparison to like you know, with these crooks who, 267 00:16:30,522 --> 00:16:34,326 you know, run Bitcoin tumblers charge and the fact that, you know, 268 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:38,764 actually verifying that they're doing their job is a whole nother thing. 269 00:16:38,764 --> 00:16:41,867 Like you're going to have to actually do blockchain analysis 270 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:46,472 to figure out if you know, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. 271 00:16:46,472 --> 00:16:47,373 And to me, like 272 00:16:48,507 --> 00:16:50,142 me requiring 273 00:16:50,142 --> 00:16:53,879 that level of investigation when I when I was doing 274 00:16:54,546 --> 00:16:58,951 the amount of stuff that I was doing, just was not worth it to me 275 00:16:59,251 --> 00:17:02,154 to have to invest that amount of time and try to figure out 276 00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:06,058 to make sure that like a Bitcoin tumbler was actually doing their job 277 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:10,596 when the fee they were charging was asinine to begin with. 278 00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:12,531 I wouldn't pay it so... 279 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,433 And you know, people say, Oh, you're cheaper. 280 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:18,837 At the end of the day if I switch it from if I should have my crypto from Bitcoin 281 00:17:18,837 --> 00:17:22,808 to, you know, XMR, I know for a fact that it's switched. 282 00:17:22,808 --> 00:17:24,109 I don't have to confirm that. 283 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:25,744 I don't have to do blockchain analysis. 284 00:17:25,744 --> 00:17:28,847 Like, most dangerous thing in an operation 285 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:32,284 is, you know, not knowing a particular thing. 286 00:17:32,284 --> 00:17:33,052 So, like, you know, 287 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:37,156 if you're basing your operational security on, you know, doing a particular thing 288 00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:40,192 or operating in a certain way, and at the end of the day, 289 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:43,762 you don't know what's going to happen at a certain timeframe. 290 00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:45,998 That's a million different things that can go wrong 291 00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:48,634 and even a minute timespan. 292 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:52,438 So an unknown is an absolute red flag when you're talking 293 00:17:52,438 --> 00:17:54,606 about operational security. 294 00:17:54,606 --> 00:17:58,310 And because I knew it was a red flag to me and I avoided it. 295 00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:01,380 So anyways, back to the thing at hand. 296 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:05,517 So Harmon was arrested in June of 21 297 00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:09,588 and he pled guilty on January six of 23. 298 00:18:10,155 --> 00:18:13,025 He agreed to foreclose assets, including more than 299 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:20,099 647.41 Bitcoin 2.14. 300 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:31,543 Etherium and 17,404,400.64 Dogecoin. 301 00:18:32,211 --> 00:18:35,814 You'll be sentenced on March 17th, 2023. 302 00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:39,952 His brother, Larry Harmon pleaded guilty to money laundering charges 303 00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:42,955 in August 2021. 304 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:47,126 So, you know, at the end of the day, a lot of these dudes, the really 305 00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:52,164 the big downfall of a lot of these guys is that you end up, 306 00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:56,235 you know, seeing these dudes cooperate with law enforcement, 307 00:18:57,336 --> 00:18:57,970 which, you 308 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:01,740 know, is it's really unfortunate at the end of the day that they do that. 309 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:06,245 Like, you know, you end up putting other people in prison 310 00:19:06,411 --> 00:19:10,983 because, you know, a lot of times they're scared to go to prison. 311 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:14,820 And, you know, it's just it's a it's a it's like the 312 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:18,090 you know, for anyone who's ever looked at kind of like the Salem 313 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:21,260 witch trials, I think our justice system operates 314 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:26,064 in very much the same fashion where it's like one person gets in trouble 315 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:30,302 and that person, you know, because of their own cowardice, 316 00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:36,241 freaks out and ends up, you know, bringing five or six other people with them. 317 00:19:36,241 --> 00:19:39,611 It's like, if I'm drowning and I grab you and I push you under the water 318 00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:43,115 to lift myself up, to get a breath of fresh air for a minute. 319 00:19:43,515 --> 00:19:45,217 And, you know, I just keep pushing. 320 00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:49,922 You wonder every time we try to come up, like, that's exactly what we do. 321 00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:53,559 But, you know, we if you do that to six, seven, eight, nine, ten people, 322 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,661 20 people, you know, at a shot. 323 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:59,231 And it's just really and I'm not saying that like at the end of the day, 324 00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:03,268 this guy actually did that because I don't know, I'd have to, you know, in order 325 00:20:03,268 --> 00:20:06,738 to know someone's your telling on someone, you gonna have to hop on Pacer and 326 00:20:07,072 --> 00:20:10,609 and look them up and read their paperwork and see if there's anything like, 327 00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:16,582 you know, rule 35(b), which is when someone snitches 328 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:21,119 after they've been convicted or if there's anything like, 329 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,990 you know, 5k1, you know, 5K, 1.1 letters, 330 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:29,595 which are, you know, basically it's the statute that gives people 331 00:20:29,595 --> 00:20:34,132 downward departures or less time for cooperating with law enforcement. 332 00:20:34,132 --> 00:20:37,169 So I'm not sure whether he do it or not. 333 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:41,073 But it's just unfortunate that so many people in the Darknet community tend to, 334 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:45,377 you know, assist the feds because, you know, the feds are basically morons 335 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:48,747 when it comes to the darknet, from my experience. 336 00:20:48,747 --> 00:20:49,381 Anyway, 337 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:51,083 I just 338 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:54,152 I you know, to me, they take the easy way out 339 00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:58,357 when you have people that, you know, snitches are really investigations. 340 00:20:58,357 --> 00:21:02,761 It's like you're being given the answers, Like your job is to figure stuff out. 341 00:21:03,028 --> 00:21:05,564 And at the end of the day, if you don't figure that stuff out, 342 00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:09,401 then you're being told with the answer is. 343 00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:13,171 You know, it's like is a mathematician, a mathematician if they use a calculator. 344 00:21:13,538 --> 00:21:14,439 Right. 345 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,643 I just I always thought that was kind of an interesting parallel 346 00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:20,545 to look at and kind of evaluate it with 347 00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:25,651 in any case, I know this first episode has been super short. 348 00:21:26,218 --> 00:21:28,920 I'd love to hear you guys feedback in terms 349 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,391 of what you like, where you didn't like, how I can improve. 350 00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:35,227 Definitely let me know in the comments section. 351 00:21:35,227 --> 00:21:38,230 Again, this it's going to go on YouTube first and then depending 352 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:41,433 on the how that goes, I might, you know, put it elsewhere. 353 00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:44,436 But thank you for listening and I look forward to seeing 354 00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:45,604 you guys in the next episode.