jeremywest&maureenscanlon&originalcheeto [00:00:00] Welcome to Jeremy Chats with Coaches. Today I have on Maureen Scanlon. Hello, Maureen. Hi, can you hear me? I can hear you. It's all good. So before we begin, can I just have you, Maureen tell us a little bit about who Maureen is as a person and how you ended up in the world of coaching. Sure. Me as a person. So my life, I've always been, you know, a helper. I guess you could say my children who are grown adults now used to bring their friends over and say, come talk to my mom. She can help you. And my history of trauma and abusive relationships. Really led me to where I am now as a coach to be the voice my younger self needed because this wasn't a prevalent thing when, you know, I was going through this back in the 90s. And so [00:01:00] really one day someone had called me and said, Hey, have you ever heard of life coaching? Because I think you'd be amazing for this. And so I went online and I got my certification and it just took off from there. I was in corporate world and decided. I needed to go with this new path, a hundred percent. And I started that seven years ago and it has just been so fulfilling and I'm so passionate about it because I think the thing I love about life coaching the most is it's a freedom that you get to choose yourself. And there's so many innovative ways that you can get help now. So there's no longer that you're stuck in this therapy or counseling arena, but now you have coaches with all these different niches and goals to help you in whatever way we can. Yeah, [00:02:00] that's fantastic. Have you had the seven year itch yet? The seven year itch? No. Well, I mean, I itch all the time for more. And so, in addition to the coaching itself, sort of branched off into, you know, my own podcast where people tell their stories of triumph and those fun things. And then I wasn't aspiring to do this, but these books came into play. And so I wrote some books and it's just, it's been such a fun journey. And really the turning point for me was just believing in myself. And I find with my clients that I think that's the biggest hurdle is not knowing or believing what you're capable of or how amazing you are. And I think that's what coaching does. We really focus on that positive path for you. Yeah, I do too. I obviously [00:03:00] have a coach of my own and I always feel like She's just my number one cheerleader. And I guess that's it works with sports as well That your coach should be your number one cheerleader yeah, the other thought that has escaped me So i'll just ask you then if That's how you got into coaching. I assume your clients are similar to you, but just 10, 15, 20 years earlier. Oh, I know what I was going to say. It sounds like you have been a life coach. You're, when that friend asked you, have you heard of life coaching? And you hadn't really heard of it yet. It was already what you were. You just weren't getting paid for it. That's what my daughter says. She says my mom's been my life coach my entire life. I saw her testimonial. It's fantastic. I think that's the beauty of it. If you find that thing that you love so much you would do it for free, then you know you're in what they call the Japanese philosophy of ikigai, where it's where your knowledge base is, it's where you're passionate, and it's also where you [00:04:00] can, you know, get abundance and make a living from that. And please don't keep doing it for free, because if you do it for free, you're not going to have enough time to do it for all the people you need to be doing it for. I definitely do not do it for free. Now, it's not you. I'm talking to anybody else out there who is already a life coach. They didn't even know it and they haven't been charging for it. So who are your clients? Tell me a little bit about your avatar, the type of person that. Is attracted to you and your coaching. Sure. Sure. You know, it's a interesting thing when you do go into life coaching, people will really tell you, you need to hone in on something and you need to just, you know, focus on if you want to do women or if you want to do men or business. And I never really let myself go in that box. And so I have coached literally from 18 years old to 75. And my ideal clients are [00:05:00] those You know, it's interesting. I was thinking when I was going to come on here and talk to you, I thought, what's a good analogy? Cause I'm a really visual person. And I like to give people sort of a picture with my words. So if you'll indulge me here, think about Our journey our life journey as you know, a drive and on this drive, there's U turns, there's stop signs, there's yields there's, you know, be careful, you're going off the cliff kind of thing. And so as a life coach, we are not the drivers, our clients, people who really need help are the drivers. And I always feel like I'm a passenger. in your car helping you navigate. So I'll help you avoid potholes or help you with a flat tire. You know, if you break down or, you know, help you find the scenic route. So that's my picture in words. And for [00:06:00] me, What I learned most about every single client from 18 to 75 was the lack of knowing how amazing they are. And some of these clients never were told, do you know how amazing you are? I'll say this when they call, I'll say, do you know how amazing that is that you took a step, you took action, you picked up the phone, you called me and they're like, what? That's kind of a small thing. Yeah. Thank you. But I think our jobs as coaches is to show you your accolades, your achievements, your amazingness, your abilities. And that's really what I do. So my clients are those who just sort of reach a point in their life, whether it's relationship coaching. I do a lot of couples coaching, maybe they're recovering from infidelity or they're just stagnant in their relationships or dating. I love dating coaching because I have a lot of [00:07:00] experience with terrible dating learn everything not to do in order to help people learn what to do, especially in today's online dating world. And then. people recovering from traumatic things that have happened, divorces or moves or toxic relationships, or even just people, small business people trying to start off a business or find their purpose, get out of corporate world. So as you can see, my niche is really large and really varied. And when people come for coaching, they usually think they're coming for one problem. And it's really not that it's the underlying ability to look inside and see what's been stopping me in all of the areas of my life. Yeah, that's that's fantastic. I was just thinking about sort of, because I think you said a couple of minutes ago, something about the difference between coaching [00:08:00] and. And counseling or psychology, or was that something I was reading on the website? Yeah no, the traditional therapy and counseling versus coaching. Yeah, so basically, to my mind, traditional therapy focuses on when you're mentally ill, getting you, let's say there's a scale of negative 10 to positive 10. Psychology, which I have a psychology degree myself, but clinical psychology is all about getting you to zero and then coaching for me is all about getting you to 10. And so, yeah, if you're needing to get out of that mental illness, then yes, a psychologist is where you need to be. But beyond that, often. If you're depressed or something, when they get to the point where you're no longer depressed, they say, okay, that's it. Thank you. We don't need to see you anymore. And then it's yeah, but what now? Yes. And, you know, it's interesting because I have a client right now, who's actually doing both and he stated to me, I do therapy one week. But then he goes, but I come to [00:09:00] you for the positiveness, the goals, the affirmations. And that I love being a part of that, but you're right. There's. In psychology and therapy, the goal is to figure out the trauma, figure out the cycles and the behaviors that have been repetitive. And then when you come to life coaching, I think if you've been able to let go of that negativity, then you're able to move forward and take the action. But there are clients sometimes where I'll say, You know, I don't think you're ready for coaching because we need you to deal with these other things first so we can move you forward. Sometimes you actually will tell a client you're not ready for coaching. You need to go deal with these. Issues in, in psychotherapy. Yeah. Not too often, but I have had, you know, a couple clients where they really want to stay grounded in the past and they just really, their identity is really stuck.[00:10:00] In, you know, the traumas and the pain and it's very hard. We know that just, you know, all of us, we know that it's very hard to move forward if you're carrying, as I always say, when you wake up in the morning and you put a backpack on, you can put, you know, these boulders in your backpack, but you're not going to be able to run. So choose to wake up and put on the empty backpack because it really is. It's not conducive to change and if you're coming to a life coach You're usually interested in doing things differently, you know ending the insanity cycle, right? Yeah, that's right. And sometimes people yeah do need a little bit of psychotherapy to get out of that although sometimes we can in the first session kind of Allow them to offload the past and then move on. But yeah when I can't move on yet You need to see a therapist first what would you say then, would you say, I know you coach all different kinds of people in all different stages of life. And you [00:11:00] said they normally come to you just because they know that there needs to be a change. What would you say for yourself, this could be more broad than coaching, it could be even just. It's for life, but what would you say is the core philosophy behind your coaching? Oh gosh the core philosophy behind my coaching is learning to be your own best friend and that was what really was the Change and what it changed the trajectory of my life and I have kind of a interesting way that I convey this message and everything with me and my brand because so when I was sort of. Doing that whole stop the insanity cycle and repetitiveness of bad relationships and not feeling loved unconditionally the way I wanted to. I was doing my inner work and I was sitting at home and [00:12:00] just kind of, I'm sad, I'm lonely and what's going on. I'm the common denominator in all of this stuff. How do I make this change? And my dogs. We're there. And at the time I had an Australian shepherd who passed away last year and a Chihuahua who was still with us, a big chunky Chihuahua. And I just remember the epiphany aha moment of me sitting there trying to figure out what I was doing. That wasn't allowing me to get out of that cycle. And I just. Sort of look at them and they're looking at me. And it was this moment of look how unconditionally they love you, whether you're sad or you're happy or you leave and come back. And that's when I realized I did not love myself unconditionally and I needed to learn to be my own best friend. And so when I say learn to be your own best friend, it means do I speak to myself encouragingly the way I do? [00:13:00] To my friends, do I have good thoughts? Do I do I push myself like I would my friends? Am I honest with myself? Like I am my friends and going out there and doing things independently, solo, building that confidence. because I had been married, you know, from 18 years old until 30 and had never really been alone. And then I was in other relationships. And I remember at that moment, looking at my dogs is when I started doing things. It's just me, like learning the identity of who I was, not just being a mom or not just being a wife or, you know, those things. But who really was I and did I like myself? Well, I didn't know because I'd never spent time with myself. I'd never got to know who I really was. And it was a game changer. It was a game changer. And what I try to [00:14:00] do for my clients in my coaching is really allowing them that freedom to figure out who they are, to accept who they are, and to really embrace all the good things that they have. Because a lot of times we just, we look at ourselves and we're picking ourselves apart. with faults. Oh, this, I'm bad at this. I don't do this well. Or, you know, I'm terrible at making decisions or I'm wishy washy or I've been labeled, you know, ADHD or depression. And so really, that's my goal is always, let's look at what's good about you. We can build on what's good. We don't have to keep honing in and repeating what hasn't worked for you. Let's figure out what does work for you. Yeah, and how does that I guess it sounds to me you're kind of an identity coach, helping people find their real true identity. Not what everybody [00:15:00] else thinks they are and not what they think that everybody else thinks that they are, who they truly are. I love that you said that I know 1 has said that to me, but recently someone called me a human amplifier, which I thought was so cool because that's really what I aim to do is I amplify. What you are and who you are as a human and all the gifts that you've brought to this life and what you can do with those gifts. That's so good. So then how does that translate into tangible results for your clients? Yeah, let me give you a great example. And I love all of you. You sorry, if you're going to talk about a client, just use a false name. Oh, of course, I don't have to do that. Yeah no. I don't even mention I don't use names. Okay. Cool. Cool. But I have to say this. I. You know, I don't have a preference, you know, old, young [00:16:00] women, transgender, you know, whatever you identify with. But I do have to say this, I find that my male clients that come, it, cause it takes you guys a while. I'm going to get there and to ask for help. But when you do, boy, I do see more of an escalated speed of willingness to do the work. And so a good example of this is one of my clients, a male client. And when he came, he was really just in a bad place in his life where he was going through a divorce. He was having panic attacks. He, they were having custody struggle. The job he was at was. You know, not what he wanted to do. He had lost his position in law enforcement and so that was his identity and pride. And so as we started working together, doing exactly what I was saying, I showed him, [00:17:00] I was like, you know, you're really good at. You know, law enforcement, first of all, you have knowledge that most people don't have. We can work with that. We can find a way. What kind of freedom do you want? You want to be a better father while you're going through, you know, your divorce and custody. What if we freed up some hours for you? What if we, you know, built your financial situation better. And so as we worked together, his confidence grew, his love for himself grew. And we started a, we, I helped him start a private investigation business. And walked him through all the steps of doing that while also saying, wow, look what you accomplished. Here's five goals for this week. Let's get this done. And I just saw his, just his whole demeanor, his whole identity change. And he's now a [00:18:00] successful private investigator. He's in a new relationship. He's a wonderful dad spending quality time with his kids. It was just removing all the limiting. Beliefs he had about himself and not being stuck in where I am. Rather than focusing on where can we be? Where can we get you? That's the whole thing is I see potential that they don't see when they're clouded by all the stuff that's holding them down. Wow. And so, can you go a little bit more in detail then on when a client is unaware of their potential themselves? How do you help them identify and. And unlock their potential. Yeah. So when I was talking about the icky guy, it's really about reminding them where their strengths lie and people forget that when they're going through something they forget the things that they have [00:19:00] achieved already and the knowledge and all the accomplishments they have. Cause. We tend to be as a society always looking at tomorrow and the next thing instead of really being mindful of wow, I'm here today and I'm going to look back at all the things I did really well. And so I do a lot of exercises. I do a lot of out of the box things as well. I asked my clients to do unique things I've created. I don't have a masterclass or anything, and I know a lot of coaches do that. I'm thinking of doing that for some dating and relationships, but one of the things I do is this cloak exercise and it's taking five people. that you just, you look at and you love the qualities that they have. So it could be celebrities, it could be family members, it could be anyone. And you look at five qualities that they have that you want. And I literally have them [00:20:00] buy a cape and they put those words on this cape and they put it on every morning and they visualize becoming those things. And it's really a neat sort of vision board, like a literal vision board of I'm becoming this thing. And it's such an easy thing because as you know, everybody knows, affirmations are so important and repeating a thought three or more times becomes this belief. And so making them really focus on A, what they already are, what they've already accomplished, be what they want to be and what they can become and see just finally establishing the belief that they're capable and that they have choices. I think really in enforcing that we have choices helps us to feel empowered to change those [00:21:00] things that we want to change. Well, I love that. It's such a kinesthetic experience, putting it all on the cape and putting the cape on every morning. You'd be a great coach for a nerdy person like me. I love it. I'm a nerd too, so it takes one to know one. I have so I don't know if, You have heard any of the previous episodes or not, but I am currently in the hospital from falling off my roof and I have a Back brace on and it's just this whole huge brace that goes all the way around me and it's just white and everyone keeps saying you need to paint that like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle or Iron Man or Something like that. Oh my I'm like, nobody's going to know that I'm injured then. They're just going to think that I'm a big nerd who wants to walk around and cosplay all the time. But, oh, well, that's all right. That's right. We don't care. We do validation as long as you move through life [00:22:00] with joy and it makes you feel good. Oh my gosh. Honey, I did not know. Oh my gosh. Oh, no, that's okay. It's a very good thing. First of all, I'm alive, which a lot of people that fall from that height or not. And then secondly, my doctor said the people that he does see, cause they live are generally in a wheelchair. And a lot of them can't talk. And talking is my favorite thing to do. That's why I've started this podcast, but I don't have any permanent injuries. It's all going to heal up. It's 18 broken bones, but they're all going to heal. Didn't have to get surgery or anything. And it's pushed me into. Doing starting this podcast, which I've been thinking about and considering and pondering for years, and I've finally done it. So it's all good. Oh, my, you know, you are right there. You are a shining example of even when things seem bleak, or you think, oh, gosh, this is the worst case scenario. I'm in a hospital with a full body cast. [00:23:00] Look at you shine. See, this is. I'm doing my coaching thing automatically. I can You are, sir. I know, but that's fantastic. You're giving an example to everyone. If you need a cheerleader like this, then Maureen will be in your corner. I mean, get to when I send to you or I listen to people that come on the podcast and talk about things like this, where your ability, this is where we forget to believe in ourselves. Your ability to not sit and feel bad for yourself or boohoo, or say when I'm healed. When I'm out of the hospital when, you know, the someday mentality and there's no someday in this, in, in the days of the week it's incredible. I'm amplifying you because I just are, when I see that resilience, when I see taking those moments and that's what we do is you take those moments in your life. And instead of saying, why me, why did this happen? [00:24:00] Jeremy, a shining example of, Hey, some people lost their life. Some people will never walk again. Some people cannot talk. It's you saying this happened for me. How did this happen for me? Maybe I went to starting my podcast and now I did. And that's really that frame of mind. I love to help people say, what is this teaching me? What is this experience giving me? Because. That's life, right? That's why we came here, I believe, is I want to learn and I want to grow and I can't do that if everything is status quo and uneventful and predictable. What fun is that? Life is unpredictable and if we are able to take that kind of turmoil and struggle and, wow, hardship and say, I did this. You can do this too. So I want to [00:25:00] give you just a huge shout out for that. Thank you, Maureen. You've put you've put a huge smile on my face, and I think you've only put me two or three steps back from nirvana because you've just stroked my ego a bit, and now I have a little more ego to let go of, but no. No, it's not true! You see, that's funny that you say that because isn't that what we automatically do? We go, I don't want to brag about something or that's my ego. No, this is the difference. Between what we've been taught and what we should really think about ourselves. You're your own best friend. And you said, no, I believe in my best friend and I'm going to heal and I'm going to start this podcast and I'm worth it. It's not selfish to thank you, Maureen. I am. I. I love that best friend thing. That's what I do mindfulness coaching. And when we talk about self compassion and we talk about if your friend was, if your best friend was in the [00:26:00] same situation that you're in right now, would you be saying, you're such a loser? Why are you so lazy? What's wrong with you? Why can't you just pull yourself out of it? Or would you know, would you be compassionate to them? And so my What is it? I don't know. It's not the golden rule the platinum rule, but My version of it for self compassion is treat yourself the way that you would treat your best friend in this situation That's right. That is absolutely right And then here's a cool thing what people don't realize is when you Say when you start doing coaching or you start doing this inner work what you don't realize is You It's a gift you're giving to the world. So it isn't selfish. You're actually doing something that benefits the world because the better you are as a person, the better friend you are, the better partner you are, the better worker you are, all of that benefits. The world benefits when you love yourself [00:27:00] first. And I say this all the time, you know, when it comes to like my relationship coaching or when it comes to my dating coaching, when people are looking to date, I always say, are you at the highest level that you can be so you can attract someone at that level that you're looking for? Yeah. It's Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because the mindfulness coaching that I do what I've mostly done is work with women who are, and that's just a coincidence. I advertise to both men and women, but women were the ones who asked for the help who are recently separated or divorced out of a long term relationship. And when I was first putting that together and I had a marketing Coach and a team of people marketing. They kept getting it confused thinking that I was there to help that person find their new person. But that's not what I was there for at all. I was there to help them love themselves and become that person [00:28:00] themselves. That doesn't need someone else to make them happy. And that's coincidentally, or the best way for them to have a possibility of finding that person, but they need to be happy to find the right person, not find the right person to be happy. That's absolutely it. That's such a big part of what I love doing because I was that person. I was that, you know, that whole two halves make a whole, or you're my better. No, that's BS because I'm not half a person, I'm a whole person and we have to be a whole person to be with someone to have the most healthy and fulfilling relationship because otherwise you're asking someone to fill in the voids that you haven't filled in or you haven't healed, you haven't learned. And I found myself doing that for so many years. I mean, This is up until I was 45 [00:29:00] years old. You know, it took me that long, but then I was totally healed, not looking for a relationship and what happened? My husband, I meet him online and actually I avoided him for three months. We didn't even date. We didn't go on our first date for three months. And it's funny because I wasn't looking any longer for someone to fulfill that. I didn't think being in a partnership was necessary. And that's kind of what I was taught in my family. You're really nothing. If you're not in a partnership with someone, I had to undo all those beliefs and say, no, I'm enough. I'm enough on my own. I'm good. And what do I do? I end up attracting someone. Who's just as whole as I am. And the relationship that we have is, you know, just out of this world, he's the best human ever. And one of the things I talk about, Jeremy, that's really important when people. Are [00:30:00] in a relationship or dating because we're so caught up in this love word, right? Love is an action, you know We think if I find a person I get this thing this tangible Love thing in my hand and that's not it And I always say I get oxytocin for a few months, but that doesn't It doesn't stay spiked for the rest of your life and I always say You Love is the last thing on the list of requirements you should be looking for. And I have a fun little word that I use. And in your relationship, you need to have truspecty. And for me, that's what was missing in every relationship. Wait, say that again, please. Yes, truspecty. Alright, now let's hear what that means. Sure. You need to have ultimate trust with one another. You need to respect that person. And most of all respect yourself, meaning [00:31:00] you're not going to change or mold yourself or give up who you are, your beliefs, anything about you to be in that relationship. And then the E is honesty. You have to have this freedom to be super transparent Transcribed And honest good bad or indifferent this isn't we're not doing a fake it till we make it and becoming something people want us to be and I know because I did that I put on this I put on this mask of What do they want me to be to for me to be loved? How do I have to behave for them to love me? And so i'm chasing this conditional love based on this If I'm meeting their conditions, I will be loved. And flipping that to Trospecti was the ultimate, I loved myself unconditionally and I would accept nothing less from the person that I wanted to grow old with [00:32:00] or partner with. Yeah. So good. With your clients, I know that, again, you see a wide variety with a wide variety of different things they're working on, but do you see some common challenges that come up amongst most of your clients? You know what? I mean, obviously people's stuff is as varied as the people themselves, but I do think It's the resistance or the inability to think we have choices. I think that's really the most common thing is the feeling of being stuck on this hamster wheel of, I want this thing Marine, but I just, I can't get off this hamster wheel. And I, when you don't believe you have choices, you don't take actions to get off that hamster wheel. I think that's really the most common thing. And Without going too much into therapy, like you and I were talking about, we do have to uncover Where do your beliefs come [00:33:00] from? Where do your triggers come from? Why do you behave this way? What made you start behaving this way? Because we do have to understand Where it came from. So in my case, codependent household. And I saw the behavior examples where conditionally you have to do the things I want you to do for you to be loved. And so I took that out into the world as an adult, jumped into a relationship, 18, got married at 19. And I carried that throughout my life until I finally realized that. Wait a minute just because it was instilled in me, or I viewed it, or I experienced it doesn't mean it's true, right? That's the big thing. Don't believe that it's true. When you can see the truth of, I don't have to stay in this thing that I've been told or shown. I'm allowed to get out of [00:34:00] that belief. That's interesting because that's actually the very first thing that My coach had me do years ago when we first got together was right I'm allowed on a big sign that I put had to put by my door So I would see it at least once a day when I was leaving the house because for 18 years of our lives, we're taught that we have to ask permission to do anything to take out the car to I don't know to have snack to in school to go to the toilet. Yeah, we're trained that we have to ask permission to do anything. But then as adults, we have to unlearn that and find that we're allowed to be free to be who we really are. Yeah. And also if you're in sort of toxic families, you know, that's the biggest challenge I think in coaching is when I'm Working with a client, it's telling them that it's not your job to change the people around you, but when you change, and you set boundaries, and you set what is [00:35:00] allowable and acceptable, they have no choice but to change. But a lot of us are like, well, if they wouldn't do that, I wouldn't react like that, or if they wouldn't. If they weren't mistreating me or speaking to me that way, then I wouldn't do the things that I do. And it's the opposite. You set that boundary and say, that's not acceptable to me. I'm not going to engage in conflict. I'm not going to be reactive. I'm allowing myself to walk away or I'm distancing myself from a relationship that I don't feel will ever change. And I need to do what serves me best. That's when the change happens. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, you probably don't know it when you're making that decision, but it probably not only serves you best, it probably serves them best as well. Yeah. Yeah. And I think really the family ties are probably the most difficult for us to let go because we [00:36:00] feel that we owe them their blood, but they're my daughter, but they're my mother. I have to do this. You really don't. You come into the world alone and you leave alone. And in between that dash, you're allowed to decide. And I always say time, like a friendship, you've been friends for 20 years and you're like, Oh, I just put up with it because we've been friends for 20 years or family. Well, we're blood. I have to, those are not shackles. You don't have to be shackled to it. My favorite way to view having to let go of things that don't serve me is saying that contract ended. So. By saying we fulfilled what we needed to, whether it was learning from one another or teaching each other, whatever it was, it gave me gratitude and it gave me a better understanding of myself, but I don't have an obligation. To continue relationships [00:37:00] with anyone, strangers, relationships romantic, friendships, or family. We don't have an obligation to continue abuse, or mistreatment, or anything that doesn't feel good. The energy vampires, all of those things. We have a right to say, it doesn't work for me and I'm ending the contract. Yep. What is one piece of wisdom that you find yourself consistently giving to all different clients? My favorite sort of mantra to say to clients is nothing meant for me will ever miss me. That's my favorite thing to say. It gives you hope. It gives you this understanding that I don't have to chase everything. I don't have to hustle and work so hard. And really as humans [00:38:00] being patient is our hardest work. And when you say that to yourself, nothing meant for me will ever miss me, you allow yourself to sort of relax and be mindful and be in the moments instead of being so impatient it's not happening, I want this to happen. It has to run its course, right? It has to, everything has to be aligned. It's like a pregnancy. Everything, the baby has to grow each month. There's different developments, there's eyelashes, there's fingernails. And so at that nine month mark, when that baby's ready, that baby's coming. So if we looked at life that way, the things that we desire, the things that we want, it doesn't mean we don't take action. We do. Those things that, that take action, but you don't have to stress about it not happening. So nothing meant for you will ever miss you. You just keep working and believing and knowing that if I have that desire, it would [00:39:00] not be in me unless it was coming to pass. I love that. And I think it was Mike Kaplan, a comedian that I heard this from. But what, I think somebody had asked him how to become a successful comedian, and he said, the best thing to do is to act as if you already are. So, so, so it's not that trying and trying, you just act as if, do what you, what would a comedian do? Okay. That's what I'll do. Or whatever you're working towards. And you just do what they would do. That's not try hard thing that you're talking about. It's just being, you are being that maybe you're not getting paid for it yet, but just like you were a life coach long before you got paid for it. You know? That's funny. When I got my certification, the day that I got my certification, I wrote myself a $5 million check to Marine family Life coat. That sounds like somebody follows Jim Carey. I was just gonna say just like I wrote it out to marine scanlon live coaching my five million dollar check and I still have it and I have [00:40:00] it You know visible And it's the idea. When are you gonna cash it? You know what? I've always said next stop oprah's couch. So when whenever oprah discovers, you know that I'm worthy of sitting across from her. No. I oprah if you like the secret then you will love maureen scanlon I'm, serious. I'm, sorry. Is it scanlon or scanlon? Scanlon, right scanlon. Yeah. Yeah and she's a dog lover so even better but yeah, that's And I think that's what sort of that uniqueness for me Is everybody loves dogs. Everybody has had a dog or, you know, has one now or knows people with dogs. And when you look at dogs. It's how we need to live our lives and you know, I don't want to i'm waiting for the day when ai Feeds me and takes me out on walks and just takes care of me and I can Just be living in the moment and not worrying one [00:41:00] bit about anything in the future That's right. That is right. Well Excuse me And that's you know, that was the idea. That's the weird thing is Just observing them, I was getting all these ideas for each chapter of the book, and I was just like, Oh my gosh, it's so simple. First of all, they only have to live 10 years, you know, on average. You know, they don't have to give 70 years to try and improve themselves. I'm glad I live longer than 10 years. I've got a few things I need out of life since then. Well, that's just it. There's nothing for them to improve on. I mean, yeah, they're just so easy going and spontaneous and play and nap and do what feels best for them We need to take a page from their book. Yeah, absolutely so just two last questions here maureen and They're really just to make sure we haven't missed anything So if the answer is no to either or both of them, that's fine. But if you have something that's great, too so First question, is there [00:42:00] anything that we started talking about that you didn't get to say as much as you wanted because we headed off in a different direction? No, I love the conversation and I love all the varied ways that, that we explained, you know, how we can help people with life coaching. So I'm completely happy with all the subjects we touched on. Great. And lastly, because I'm only just getting to know you is there anything about you, your philosophy, your work or your life in general, that would be, we didn't even bring up, there would be a glaring omission in a survey of who is Maureen Scanlon. Well, a little fun fact. So, you know, I'm not a fan of labels, but I mean, there are no C's in the DSM guide, you know, based on traits that we have. Yeah, so I was diagnosed with adult MADD, and I recently discovered that I'm on the spectrum. Yay! Maybe that's where [00:43:00] I'm ADHD, I'm so close. Sometimes I think maybe I'm ASD, because all of my friends are, and all the people that I feel communicate in ASD. The most logical and sensical way, sensical are on the spectrum and the European version, the ICD, they're apparently thinking of putting ADHD and autism into making them one diagnosis because they're such similar. Brain causes of irritables. They are. They really are. And today is National Autism Day. So, National Autism Day. Happy National Autism Day. Although it's gonna actually be published in a couple of days from now. But, the day that we recorded this, happy National Autism Day. Yeah, Autism Awareness Day. And you know what, for me, I've always been attracted to the outliers and people who have quirks and unusual qualities, because I think we've all been kind of trained that we're supposed to be in the norm or be [00:44:00] normal. And I don't like normal. I don't want to be normal, you know, so I'm very, I can see why now, you know, now that I understand, you know, my spectrum brain I like. Uniqueness. I like funniness. I like things that make us stand out. That's what makes us human is being extra shiny and being special and unique. So I just, I love my own style. I said this on a recent episode, but i'm gonna say it again. Why do you keep trying to fit in when you were born to stand out? Oh, jeremy, all right. That's not that's a quote of somebody. I don't it's not original but yeah, I love that one. I do too I don't want to be like everybody else neither. Do you because you can't be you can never there's no only one you What's that? That's right. Now the reason for this podcast is there's two main reasons. One is so that anybody can tune in and listen to all different kinds of coaches that do all kinds of different coaching with all kinds of [00:45:00] different people and glean something or a few things from every episode. But the second reason is for people to meet. Coaches and here a natural conversation with a coach to see if they feel like you're someone that they would click with So if someone is thinking I need maureen scanlon as my cheerleader in my life How do they find you? Sure. I make it really easy because with HD we need easy, right? We need one. We need a one stop shop. I am at lifecoachmaureen. com. It has all of my information. You can even schedule a session. You can contact me if you have questions and I do give a free 30 minute discovery phone call to see if we do fit and you're right. We have to have a mutual compatibility. I would never want to coach someone that didn't feel we were compatible and vice versa. So [00:46:00] lifecoachmaureen. com really easy. Fantastic, and you can find all my links at jeremywest. net, including the link to a full episode, every full episode of this podcast, and including any affiliate brands that I have relationship with. So if you buy stuff off that page, then it does benefit me and the podcast. Thank you, Maureen, for your time, and everyone have a fantastic day. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Bye.